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		<title>A mendable Mail.app IMAP mailbox mess</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Gaden</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jon at WizardIsHungry is an unhappy Mail user. He has three accounts, a Gmail account and two IMAP ones, but the mailboxes won&#8217;t behave the way he wants them to (as you can see on the right). It&#8217;s a mess. One IMAP account is displaying its folders under the Account&#8217;s Inbox; the other &#8220;breaks them [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/unholymailboxmess.jpg"  align="right" border="0" hspace="10" vspace="10" alt="Unholymailboxmess" height="555" width="150"/><a href="http://wizardishungry.com/blog/archive/annoyances-multiple-accounts-in-apple-mailapp-wtf">Jon at WizardIsHungry</a> <img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/images/extlink.jpg"/> is an unhappy Mail user.</p>
<p>He has three accounts, a Gmail account and two IMAP ones, but the mailboxes won&#8217;t behave the way he wants them to (as you can see on the right).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a mess.  One IMAP account is displaying its folders under the Account&#8217;s Inbox; the other &#8220;breaks them out&#8221; under a globe further down the Mailbox Viewer. </p>
<p>As if that&#8217;s not bad enough, Mail.app is also eating his draft and sent messages instead of storing them in one of his two (!) Sent folders.</p>
<p>Abstruse error messages in the Console only add insult to injury.</p>
<p>Enough&#8217;s enough. It&#8217;s good-bye to Mail.app as far as Jon is concerned:</p>
<blockquote><p>So I guess Iâ€™ll be migrating to Thunderbird once I get a free couple days to export all my mail and regenerate my IMAP mailbox. If anyone has any hints about migration or using Thunderbird, Iâ€™d like to hear them.</p></blockquote>
<p>Luckily for him, Derik DeLong from <a href="http://www.macuser.com">MacUser</a> <img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/images/extlink.jpg"/> posted all the answers <a href="http://wizardishungry.com/blog/archive/annoyances-multiple-accounts-in-apple-mailapp-wtf#comment-79">in a comment</a> <img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/images/extlink.jpg"/> to Jon&#8217;s post.</p>
<p>Some of his problems can be fixed by setting the right IMAP path prefix for his email provider (More on this <a href="http://joseph.randomnetworks.com/archives/2005/05/02/mailapp-imap-path-prefix-changes/">in a post and comments</a> <img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/images/extlink.jpg"/> on Joseph Scott&#8217;s blog).</p>
<p>The rest can be fixed by using the Mailbox -> Use This Mailbox For&#8230; menu option to set the folders that Mail uses for its Draft, Sent, Trash and Junk mailboxes (See <a href="http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mail/2.0/en/ml1134.html">Apple&#8217;s technote</a> <img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/images/extlink.jpg"/> on this for more).<tags>mail.app, apple mail, IMAP, mailboxes, folders, special folders, IMAP path prefix, unhappy user, dog&#8217;s breakfast</tags><strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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		<title>Russin&#8217; Frussin&#8217; Cussin&#8217; Mail.app</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/02/22/russin-frussin-cussin-mailapp/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Gaden</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A German blogger made a post that deserves a wider hearing, if only because its passion is so heart-felt...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/wp-content/wp-images/outrageousstereotype.gif" height="116" width="100" border="0" align="right" hspace="10" vspace="0" alt="outrageousstereotype" title="outrageousstereotype" />A German blogger<a href="http://log.baumert.cc/index/archives/2006/02/18/1074/mac-os-x-mail-katastrophe/"> wrote a post</a> <img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/images/extlink.jpg"/> that deserves a wider hearing, if only because its passion is so heart-felt:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/wp-content/wp-images/screenshot-60.jpeg" height="27" width="30" border="0" align="left" hspace="5" alt="openquotationmarks" title="openquotationmarks" />You email maniacs out there, let me tell you something &#8212; Never trust your emails to Apple Mail.</p>
<p>Really.  I have not come across such an awful piece of email software for a long time.  And I test all sorts of pre-Alpha releases.</p>
<p>But Apple Mail?  With IMAP?  Forget it!  Gruesome.</p>
<p>I need pretty well four tries before an email is really properly marked as read.</p>
<p>Threading by name is not available. Who hit upon the silly idea of implementing threading by subject only?  Why do you think the mail server puts equally clear message IDs in the headers?</p>
<p>Spam?  It remains a puzzle to me how exactly Apple Mail learns if an email is spam or not.  </p>
<p>But after marking the twentieth incorrectly-identified email from Deutsche Welle as &#8216;Not Spam&#8217;, even this wretched piece of software ought to recognise that I want to read them.</p>
<p>Sometimes I think that I would use my time more productively if I were to throw myself into <a href="http://www.hawkwings.net/2005/12/17/roundcube-mailapp-like-webmail/">RoundCube</a>&#8216;s code and fix bugs or try my hand at producing some extensions (PGP-plugin, spam filter, threading).  Then at least I would know who to blame if something goes wrong.</p>
<p>To the people at Apple who I have to thank for the opportunity of searching through my backups for two weeks of emails: May your hard disk <img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/wp-content/wp-images/screenshot1-28.jpeg" height="26" width="30" border="0" align="right" hspace="5" vspace="0" alt="closequotationmarks" title="closequotationmarks" /> disintegrate into its constituent parts and your backups get eaten by a dog!</p>
<p><em>This is a quick and dirty, unpolished translation. But as you can see from <a href="http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?url=http%3A%2F%2Flog.baumert.cc%2Findex%2Farchives%2F2006%2F02%2F18%2F1074%2Fmac-os-x-mail-katastrophe%2F&#038;lp=de_en">BabelFish&#8217;s effort</a> <img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/images/extlink.jpg"/> after the jump, humans do not need to fear that computers will corner the translation market anytime soon.</em></p>
<p><span id="more-752"></span>Let you one said be their Mails?tigen there outside. Never entrusts your Mails the program Mail of Apple.</p>
<p>Thus honestly. Such a bad St? Mailsoftware did not find accomodation me already for a long time any longer. I try quite various pre alpha software out.</p>
<p>But Mail of Apple? Imaps? Forget it. Grey-blessedly.</p>
<p>I need scarcely 4 Anl?e to a Mail also really durably as read am indicated. Threading does not earn there the name. Who comes on the d?iche idea only to the Subject the Threading to make? Wof?gab of the Mailserver nevertheless equal clear IDs into the Mailheader?</p>
<p>Spam? Now, for me a R?el remains that Apples Mail learns that it Spam is or not. But after the zwangzigsten, nachtr?ich as non&#8211;Spam, Mail of the German wave marked should also this miserable St? Software recognize which I the messages to read wants.</p>
<p>I think times, I invest my time more meaningfully, if I try into the SOURCE code of RoundCube st?e and nose fixed one or me extensions (PGP Plugin, Spam filter, Threading). Then white I at least who debt is if times again garnix goes.</p>
<p>That with Apple, to which I have to owe it which I now into the Backups on the search after 2 weeks Mails go may, m? the non removable disk into their individual parts aufl?n and the Backup by the dog to eat!<tags>mail.app, apple mail, IMAP, spam, german, unhappy user, marking mail as read, threading</tags><strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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