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		<title>Know yourself: Geek or nerd?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 12:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Gaden</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or nerd?If you are reading this post on Hawk Wings, you are one or the other.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/wp-images/nerdgeek.jpg" height="149" width="100" border="0" align="right" hspace="10" vspace="0" alt="nerdgeek" title="nerdgeek" />Are you a geek or a nerd?</p>
<p>If you are reading this post on Hawk Wings, you are one or the other. </p>
<p>A blog about a niche email client within a niche OS within the niche market of computing (a niche of a niche of a niche) pretty well meets the criteria of obsession and narrow focus that has defined these two words.</p>
<p>A post on progressive: what the blog? <a href="http://www.primary0.com/2006/05/13/geek-vs-nerd/">explores the semantics</a> <img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/images/extlink.jpg"/> of geeks and nerds. </p>
<p>After pointing out that dictionary definitions confuse the two, the writer attempts a distinction:</p>
<blockquote><p>A geek has a narrower interest span than a nerd. A geek is extremely good at one thing and also knows a bit more than average about many other interests he or she might have. A geek is also more outgoing and more social than nerds. A geek is more â€™self orientedâ€™ while a nerd is â€˜interest orientedâ€™. A geek may give up or switch to some other interest if thre are benifits in it, but a nerd will not &#8211; if he did he would fall under the geek definition.</p></blockquote>
<p>Australia must follow the UK on this, I think, where the usage differs. As a commentator on the progressive post points out, people in the UK &#8216;tend to use &#8220;geek&#8221; to mean &#8220;one who has keen interest in computers, telephony, science fiction etc&#8221; and &#8220;nerd&#8221; to mean &#8220;a geek too far&#8221;&#8216;.</p>
<p>That seems to fit. Geeks can at least see normality in the middle distance, whilst for nerds it is already lost over the horizon. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a better distinction than my first thought: Steve Jobs is a geek, but Bill Gates is a nerd. And than my second: Geeks are GUI (Mail.app, Thunderbird) and nerds are command line (mutt, pine). Life is more complicated than that.</p>
<p>[Via the excellent <a href="http://daringfireball.net/linked/2006/may#sun-14-geek_nerd">Daring Fireball Linked List</a> <img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/images/extlink.jpg"/>]<tags>nerds, geeks, stigma, tribalism, semantics, obsession, niche interests, computers, Steve jobs, bill gates</tags><strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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