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Eudora lives! First OSE release candidate is out

Tim Gaden — Sat, 03 Jul 2010 08:02:19 +0000

The first release candidate for Eudora OSE (“Open Source Edition”) has been released , after a gap of several months since the last beta.

Described as “an email client that combines Mozilla’s Thunderbird with code, features, and GUI elements from Qualcomm’s Eudora”, Eudora OSE is the end result of Qualcomm’s decision in October 2006 (Remember that?) to get out of the email market and to open source the code for its email client, once the most popular email app on the Mac platform.

Firing it up for a quick look-see is very nostalgic. First the freestanding mailbox pane appears, and then that unforgettable “bob-bob-a-bob-a-bob” sound of new mail arriving.

Old hands might still cherish a secret flame for Eudora, and find this release an interesting thing to play around with.

It’s not the old Eudora, that’s for sure; feels more like a skinned version of Thunderbird to me.Similar Posts:

Actiontastic gets MailTags integration, goes Open Source

Tim Gaden — Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:13:38 +0000

Actiontastic, one of the nicest Desktop GTD apps for Mac users, has gone open source, soon after gaining support for MailTags.

Jon Crosby announced the shift to a free, open source future for Actiontastic in a post on his blog a few days ago:

Opening up this project for community participation is the best possible thing that I can think of doing for its future. Great things are on the horizon for that sweet intersection of the web and the desktop. I would rather discuss them openly and collaborate with other like-minded people than hide any of the details just to make another $29 shareware sale.

Three weeks earlier, he explained how to integrate MailTags with Actiontastic via iCal with Actiontastic’s @inbox calendar. Nifty.

Is the move to open source a good thing? It’s the usual trade-off between free software offering the user community a chance to contribute on the one hand and, on the other, a possible loss of focus and forward movement.

The announcement of Eudora’s move to open source last year made some people nervous about its future for similar reasons.

Hopefully, both apps will continue to thrive.GTD, getting things done, mailtags, mail.app, apple mail, ical, open source, eudora, productivitySimilar Posts:

Mail.app on Mac trumps Ubuntu hands down

Tim Gaden — Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:03:12 +0000

Remember a few months ago there was an apparent stampede of people, headed by Mark Pilgrim, who were abandoning Macs for Ubuntu? (Although some later came back.)

Java podcaster Tim Shadel is going the other way , dumping Ubuntu after using Linux for years and stretching his legs into Mac OS X.

Since Mail.app was the straw that broke the camel’s back for Mark Pilgrim, it’s extra interesting to read Tim’s experience with Mail, compared to Evolution, his Linux mail client:

Mail.app is great. Evolution almost works. I have to use exchange at work (I have Ubuntu installed there, too). Evolution has a module to integrate with Exchange, and it sorta thinks about working. Itâ€™s slow, and frequently it hangs. So much so that I got sick of typing

ps -ef | grep evolu | grep -v grep | awk ‘{ print $2 }’ | xargs kill

that I put it in a batch file shell script. I ran it no less than twice a day, sometimes more. Calendaring almost worked, except when it didnâ€™t. Frequently Iâ€™d send out an appointment only to figure out that my colleagues version of the appointment didnâ€™t repeat over the right interval. I donâ€™t blame anyone for having trouble integrating with a Microsoft product. But at the end of the day, it was still annoyingly brittle. On Mac, thereâ€™s Entourage â€” an M$ product to work with the M$ server. As it is, Mail.app rocks for processing my personal email really efficiently. Oh, and it can export your mail to mbox. Duh. On Ubuntu, mail almost works.

He goes on to list many more ways in which Mac OS X simply provides a superior user experience—searching, wireless, GUI, audio effects, bluetooth and more.

In the end, it’s all about an OS that (wait for it…) “just works”:

My reasons for choosing to dump Ubuntu for a Mac are almost entirely about the experience. After years of Linux work, Iâ€™m tired of fiddling. Iâ€™m tired of things that almost work. Iâ€™m ready for a change. Iâ€™m sick of the war to get things to work. Iâ€™m ready to simply Get Things Done.

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More on the future of open source Eudora

Tim Gaden — Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:42:13 +0000

The latest MacNotables podcast (Adam Engst, Jason Snell, Chuck Joiner et al.) is focussed on the future of the open source Eudora, which is to be rebuilt from the ground up on Thunderbird’s code.

Two long-time Eudora users — Adam Engst (TidBITs) and Jason Snell (MacWorld editor) — talk about what they would like to see in the new version and make a few points on the need for innovation in email programs in general. Eudora users are also encouraged to get involved in the development of the new creation.

The new Eudora will be called Penelope (presumably after the woman (Wikipedia ) who waited for years and years with increasing impatience for her husband Odysseus to come home whilst she fended off a swarm of suitors with various deceits).

It will be a long wait for Eudora users too. Only after two intermediate steps do developers expect to release Penelope 1.0. And only then,

once we finish version 1.0, we will divide our attention between bringing over some of the more obscure Eudora features and customizations, and doing new work.

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Eudora goes open-source

Tim Gaden — Wed, 11 Oct 2006 22:20:40 +0000

Qualcomm has announced that future versions of its email client Eudora will be open-source, and provides more details on the development in a FAQ.

The company is in discussion with the Mozilla Foundation, hoping to base future Windows and Mac versions of Eudora on Thunderbird’s code. It expects that the open-source Eudora will be available sometime in the first half of 2007.

Eudora was once one of the most popular Mac email clients. Back when I was using Pegasus Mail on a 286, many Macheads were enjoying the power and flexibility of Eudora.

According to MacWorld, the original developer of Eudora Steve Dorner is pleased with the development:

Using the Mozilla Thunderbird technology platform as a basis for future versions of Eudora will provide some key infrastructure that the existing versions lacked, such as a cross-platform code base and a world-class display engine. Making it open source will bring more developers to bear on Eudora than ever before.

In the meantime Qualcomm is pushing the last commercial release of Eudora 6.2.4 for Mac out the door at the reduced price of USD 19.95 including six months of support.

[Via MacWorld after a tip-off from Bronson. Thanks!] eudora, email in general, thunderbird, open source, qualcommSimilar Posts:

What if: Opening up Mail.app

Tim Gaden — Wed, 21 Jun 2006 23:48:28 +0000

The Apple and open source / open file format debate continues.

Tim Bray, Director of Web Technologies at Sun Microsystems, made a contribution that drew some attention. He is going to switch to Linux.

Rui Carmo at Tao of Mac also has some interesting things to say. He argues that Open Format is the real issue here, not open-sourced apps.

Still, he can’t help wondering if,

… Mail.app (for one) wouldn’t be considerably better than it currently is if its core bits had half the exposure that WebKit has, or if iChat would have had a chance to evolve to become the standards-uncompliant mess that it is if it were based off Gaim or, better still, the odd-named application that replaced Gnomemeeting.

I have a feeling that they would at least be more interoperable with other stuff, which entails having the decency of supporting IMAP IDLE and SIP/H.323 properly – and hopefully causing considerably less pain to their users.

Making Mail.app more open to developers was one of the key desires that emerged from the “Talking Mail.app” interviews with John Gruber, Merlin Mann, Scott Morrison, drunkenbatman, Leander Kahney, Brent Simmons, et al.

Of course, wishing don’t make it so, but it’s still fun to wonder.

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John Gruber, Mark Pilgrim, Mail.app and openness

Tim Gaden — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:27:43 +0000

John Gruber and Mark Pilgrim are having a very public and very excellent conversation about Apple and file formats, proprietary and open.

Mark Pilgrim announced that he was switching from OS X to Ubuntu, citing the ever-advancing proprietary creep in Apple as the main reason for his switch. Apple “just doesn’t get it” when it comes to open file formats.

Uproar. Not least because of Pilgrim’s reputation as a long-standing Mac guru.

John Gruber responded to the post, arguing that “Apple gets it / Apple doesn’t get it” is too crude a view:

The question isnâ€™t â€œDoes Apple get it?â€, but â€œDoes Apple get it enough?â€ …. [W]hile it is easy to find ways to complain that Apple is not open enough â€” under-documented and undocumented security updates and system revisions, under-documented and undocumented file formats â€” it would be hard to argue with the premise that Apple today is more open than it has ever been before. (Exhibit A: the Web Kit project.)

But there are things that could be better, should be better, but arenâ€™t, and itâ€™s hard to ascribe these policies to anything other than management that is, at best, indifferent to issues related to openness.

Interesting as this all is (and there is a lot more of it—you should read the posts on both sites), I am posting this because it turns out that Mail.app played a crucial role in Pilgrim’s decision to switch.

In his response to John’s response, Mark writes that Mail 2.0 finally forced his decision to switch:

And then came Tiger, and Mail.app 2.0. In Mac OS X 10.4, Apple deliberately changed Mail.app to use their proprietary .emlx data format, apparently to work around the limitations of Spotlight. Mail.app 2.0 helpfully auto-converted all my wonderful mbox files into Appleâ€™s shitty undocumented format. Iâ€™m now in the process of undoing the damage….

This was really the last straw for me. I was already feeling vaguely dissatisfied with Apple; now I feel actively betrayed. By the time I even realized what had happened (a year after buying OS X 10.4), it was too late. Now Iâ€™m forced to migrate all my mail yet again from yet another proprietary format, and the best documentation Iâ€™ve found so far is on LiveJournal. Jesus H. Christ, somebody deserves to be fired for that.

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MacBiff: Powerful polling for IMAP accounts

Tim Gaden — Sat, 04 Feb 2006 13:39:33 +0000

MacBiff is a “biff” program that sits in the menubar and polls multiple IMAP accounts for new mail.

Unlike many notification utilities, though, it takes full advantage of the functions and flexibility of IMAP servers and folders.

If you are looking for a powerful and flexible mail-check utility for your IMAP accounts that also works with Growl, you will want to read the rest of the review and see the screenshots after the jump.

When you run it for the first time, you will need to enter the information for your IMAP accounts. It then starts polling, displaying the results as nested folders on your IMAP server (excuse me sending myself email for this example, but it’s the weekend so email traffic is down):

As you can see, it displays the total number of emails in each folder as well as the unread ones. It retrieves a time stamp, sender and subject of the email for you.

Sadly, clicking the subject line info doesn’t open up the email in Mail.app. It should.

But there’s more! Under the hood, MacBiff offers options for subscribing, ignoring and disabling particular folders in each account:

It also interacts with Growl for yet more notification options, passing limited folder information to Growl as well for display in its alerts.

Finally, a nifty additional feature becomes available if you “detach” it from the menubar. MacBiff gives you a list of all your IMAP folders, the total number of emails in each one and the number of unread emails (although you can already get something like this in Mail.app with a keystroke):

MacBiff is an open source project. You can get the latest build from the developer’s web site.IMAP, notification, polling, biff, folders, subscribed folders, growl, nested folders, menubar, open source

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