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		<title>Talking Mail.app: Daniel Jalkut</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mail was "OK" but using it was mostly out of necessity - I wanted to handle everything on my main computer, and I wanted to "eat my dogfood" and work on Mac OS X as much as possible.A brief history of email clients I used previous to that:Eudora (OS 9) - After getting too frustrated with Claris Emailer's sorting capabilities.Claris Emailer (OS 9) - Apple's previous "in-house" client.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/wp-content/wp-images/Jalkut_Daniel.jpg" height="114" width="100" border="1" align="right" hspace="10" vspace="0" alt="Jalkut_Daniel" title="Jalkut_Daniel" />Daniel Jalkut started work at Apple in 1995 as a contractor. He initially worked on Carbon, but moved to the OS X group in 1999, where he was part of the CoreServices Group for Mac OS X. </p>
<p>These days he is an independent software consultant specializing in Macintosh development. In his spare time he writes about technology and the Mac on <a href="http://red-sweater.com/blog/index.php">Red Sweater Blog</a> <img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/images/extlink.jpg"/> (recently anointed by John Gruber who <a href="http://daringfireball.net/linked/2006/january">says</a> <img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/images/extlink.jpg"/> that it is &#8220;turning into one of my very favorite Mac weblogs&#8221;).</p>
<p>His main Mac is a Dual 2.0Ghz PowerMac G5, anxiously awaiting replacement by a MacBook Pro.</p>
<p><strong>HW:</strong> How long have you been using Mail.app? What other clients have you used (and why did you stop)?</p>
<p><strong>DJ:</strong> I have been using Mail.app since switching to Mac OS X as my primary work platform. This switch occurred when I moved to the Mac OS X group at Apple in time to work on the &#8220;Developer Preview&#8221; releases. I guess that would make it 1999. </p>
<p>I think Mail.app was still called MailViewer at that time. Mail was &#8220;OK&#8221; but using it was mostly out of necessity &#8211; I wanted to handle everything on my main computer, and I wanted to &#8220;eat my dogfood&#8221; and work on Mac OS X as much as possible.</p>
<p>A brief history of email clients I used previous to that:</p>
<p>Eudora (OS 9) &#8211; After getting too frustrated with Claris Emailer&#8217;s sorting capabilities.</p>
<p>Claris Emailer (OS 9) &#8211; Apple&#8217;s previous &#8220;in-house&#8221; client. It had a lot of nice features but ultimately stopped being updated to match the real world use of email.</p>
<p>eWorld and/or PowerTalk (OS 9) &#8211; For some period of time while Apple was really confused about everything, they tried to convince us to use these in-house proprietary solutions. That was bad.</p>
<p>QuickMail (OS 9) &#8211; For a hideous period of time between when I joined Apple and when they &#8220;woke up to real email,&#8221; we all used QuickMail from CE Software. This was a proprietary client *and* a proprietary delivery system. It could do some cool things like &#8220;Unsend&#8221; mail when you realized you goofed and the recipient hadn&#8217;t read it, yet. Other than that, it was a big nuisance to me, coming from a standard &#8220;Unix-based&#8221; mail environment.</p>
<p>Unix Mail (various platforms) &#8211; I got started with email using shared personal UNIX systems run by hobbyists. Sort of a natural outgrowth of BBS culture, but all based on a dialup UNIX platform. I ended up sticking with the basic command-line based mail client all through my teen years and through college. I even wrote a &#8220;naive user&#8217;s manual for mail&#8221; as a Technical Writing class project.</p>
<p><strong>HW:</strong> What plugins and extensions do you use to make your email experience better?</p>
<p><span id="more-710"></span><strong>DJ:</strong> I don&#8217;t use any plugins, but I have a highly customized Mail environment based on <a href="http://www.red-sweater.com/fastscripts/">FastScripts</a> <img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/images/extlink.jpg"/>. I do a lot of &#8220;by client&#8221; or &#8220;by subject&#8221; filing so I set up a bunch of keyboard shortcuts to automatically route things to the right folders. I know there are automatic solutions for things like this, but I like my system.</p>
<p>I also wrote some AppleScripts for common (well, not that common!) tasks like recording customer software payments and sending out a thank you note. My productivity system in general is based mostly on identifying time-sucks and automating the process with AppleScript and a keyboard shortcut.</p>
<p><strong>HW:</strong> What&#8217;s your favourite thing about Mail.app?</p>
<p><strong>DJ:</strong> My enthusiasm for Mail really went up when they added the &#8220;threaded view.&#8221; I couldn&#8217;t believe I had lived so long without it, and when I&#8217;m forced to take brief vacations from it (e.g. checking mail through a web kiosk), I find my mail absolutely unmanageable. Threaded view is particularly useful for any mailing lists where there are liable to be 50-message-long rants about something you don&#8217;t care about. Click. Delete.</p>
<p>Mail does lots of other things right, which is why I still use it. I love being able to click the &#8220;replied&#8221; icon on any message I&#8217;ve received and have Mail pop up the actual message I sent in reply. I use that feature all the time. Smart folders and the ability to consolidate subfolders into a single list (just click the super-folder) are pretty cool but they seem &#8220;just under par&#8221; implementation-wise.</p>
<p><strong>HW:</strong> What&#8217;s your pet hate about Mail.app?</p>
<p><strong>DJ:</strong> There are many. They are chronicled in Apple&#8217;s bug tracking system! The biggest peeve I have with Mail is that its invitingly comprehensive AppleScript support falls down in a couple severe ways:</p>
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<li>Many key actions are simply unscriptable, so you&#8217;re stuck with GUI scripting or other workarounds to get the desired behavior.</li>
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<li>Scripted actions often don&#8217;t &#8220;hook in&#8221; to the regular way of doing things. For instance, a scripted action that asks Mail to move a message to a folder can&#8217;t be &#8220;undone&#8221; like a normal move to folder. It&#8217;s happening under the radar or something.</li>
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<p>I am also extremely annoyed by the seeming inability of Mail to handle any pasting of styled text with elegance. Why is it still broken?</p>
<p><strong>HW:</strong> If you could tell the Apple Mail development team one thing, what would it be?</p>
<p><strong>DJ:</strong> Don&#8217;t stand still. Right now it&#8217;s easy to shine because there is little viable competition. Mail&#8217;s position now is tenuous, like Internet Explorer on the Mac in 2002. Everybody uses it because it&#8217;s there and &#8220;pretty darned good.&#8221; I would love to see a better solution, though, and I don&#8217;t think it will happen without serious outside competition.</p>
<p>I have looked at Thunderbird from time to time and, despite it&#8217;s valiant efforts to look and act like Mail, it really falls short. It does so in many of the same ways that Firefox falls short as a browser. The &#8220;little things&#8221; don&#8217;t work, and we Mac users like the little things to work. It&#8217;s infuriating when they don&#8217;t. </p>
<p>I think somebody dedicated and with a good sense of Macintosh design could take a product like Thunderbird into a position to seriously compete with Mail and push the standard expectations of a Mail application much further than they are today.<tags>talking mail.app, likes, dislikes, Daniel Jalkut, mail.app, apple mail</tags><strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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