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	<title>Hawk Wings &#187; 10.4.7</title>
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		<title>More post-10.4.7 Mail pains</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/30/more-post-1047-mail-pains/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Gaden</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[10.4.7]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although my own experience of the 10.4.7 update and Mail.app has been completely trobule-free, not everyone has been so lucky. MacUser has a good summary of some general problems. MacInTouch has a collection of readers' reports about problems following the recent update.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/wp-images/TigerDVD-1.jpg" height="96" width="100" border="0" align="right" hspace="10" vspace="0" alt="TigerDVD" title="TigerDVD" />Although my own experience of the 10.4.7 update and Mail.app has been completely trouble-free, not everyone has been so lucky. MacUser <a href="http://www.macuser.com/updates/1047_update_roundup_changing_o.php">carries a good summary</a> <img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/images/extlink.jpg"/> of some general problems.</p>
<p>MacInTouch <a href="http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/macosx10_4_7/topic4303.html">has a collection of readers&#8217; reports</a> <img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/images/extlink.jpg"/> about problems following the recent update.  Almost all of them mention Mail. The posters either have problems or are just disillusioned like this one:</p>
<blockquote><p>It&#8217;s been how many years now, that Mail has been out? How many updates to the OS, and still, *still* Apple has not fixed the problem that Mail has wrt long URIs: It breaks them in such a way that only Mail seems to be able to handle. Users of other Mail software are unable to click on the resulting links.</p>
<p>With the 10.4.7 update, they&#8217;ve certainly addressed some bugs in Mail, but this is STILL not one of them. I think the argument can be made that it&#8217;s more serious than some of the ones they have fixed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve reported this bug several times to Apple, as have my colleagues, but maybe we need a more public rant.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that Apple will &#8220;fix&#8221; this problem.  The &#8220;delsp=yes&#8221; flag that triggers this behaviour (<a href="http://www.hawkwings.net/2005/07/26/broken-hyperlinks-in-apple-mail/">read more about it</a> in an earlier Hawk Wings post) is well-documented in the RFC standard. </p>
<p>Apple (I imagine) doesn&#8217;t think this is a bug in Mail.app. It&#8217;s the rest of the world that lags behind, and we Mail users must wait for other email clients to catch up. </p>
<p>We just have to take the taunts of our non-Mail-using buddies on the nose, or use <a href="http://www.hawkwings.net/2005/08/08/broken-hyperlinks-work-around/">one workaround</a> or <a href="http://www.hawkwings.net/2005/08/13/broken-hyperlinks-work-around-2/">another</a> in the meantime.<tags>mail.app, apple mail, 10.4.7, problems, bugs, frustrations, broken URLs, delsp=yes, RFC</tags><strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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		<title>Mail.app can&#8217;t connect after 10.4.7 upgrade?</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/29/mailapp-cant-connect-after-1047-upgrade/</link>
		<comments>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/29/mailapp-cant-connect-after-1047-upgrade/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 15:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Gaden</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Several people in the Apple Discussion forums have reported that they are unable to connect to their mail servers after applying the 10.4.7 update.The problem is (usually) that Mail.app's new ability to connect through a SOCKS proxy had been turned on during the update.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/wp-images/TigerDVD.jpg" height="96" width="100" border="0" align="right" hspace="10" vspace="0" alt="TigerDVD" title="TigerDVD" />Several people in the Apple Discussion forums <a href="http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=538323&#038;tstart=0">have reported</a> <img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/images/extlink.jpg"/> that they are unable to connect to their mail servers after applying the 10.4.7 update.</p>
<p>The problem is (usually) that Mail.app&#8217;s new ability to connect through a SOCKS proxy had been turned on during the update.  </p>
<p>The fix is simple.</p>
<p>Open up your the Network pane of your System Preferences.  Choose your current method of connecting to the Internet (Built-in Ethernet, Airport, etc) and select the Proxies tab on the configuration dialog.</p>
<p>Make sure that the SOCKS proxy box is unchecked:</p>
<div align="center"><img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/wp-images/SOCKS-proxy.jpg" height="403" width="430" border="0" hspace="0" vspace="10" alt="SOCKS-proxy" title="SOCKS-proxy" /></div>
<p><tags>10.4.7, tiger, mail.app, apple mail, socks proxy, update</tags></p>
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		<title>10.4.7 and Mail.app</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/28/1047-and-mailapp/</link>
		<comments>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/28/1047-and-mailapp/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 22:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Gaden</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The latest OS update is out. According to the technical notes , 10.4.7 offers Mail.app users the following new features and bugfixes: Updates Help links within Mail alert messages so you are linked to useful content instead of a &#8220;No pages with your search words were found&#8221; page. Resolves a sync alert issue that could [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img id="image1170" src="http://www.hawkwings.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/applelogogrey100px.jpg" align="right" alt="applelogogrey100px.jpg" />The latest OS update is out. </p>
<p>According to <a href="http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303771">the technical notes</a> <img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/images/extlink.jpg"/>, 10.4.7 offers Mail.app users the following new features and bugfixes:</p>
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<li>Updates Help links within Mail alert messages so you are linked to useful content instead of a &#8220;No pages with your search words were found&#8221; page.</li>
<li>Resolves a sync alert issue that could appear if Mail accounts were in different order on the different Macs that you were syncing.</li>
<li>The Mail POP account option to &#8220;Remove copy from server after retrieving a message&#8230;&#8221; is no longer turned off after performing a sync with .Mac. </li>
<li>POP accounts you create will no longer begin with the &#8220;Remove copy from server after retrieving a message&#8230;&#8221; preference setting turned off. </li>
<li>Redirecting message to only a BCC: address no longer redirects the message to the original To: recipients as well. </li>
<li>Improves results when retrieving IMAP messages with attachments over unreliable connections.</li>
<li>Mail now supports connecting to mail servers through a SOCKS proxy. [<a href="http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/29/mailapp-cant-connect-after-1047-upgrade/">Potential problems here</a>]</li>
</ul>
<p>Users with POP accounts should note the changes carefully. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to seeing how that second last one pans out.<tags>apple, OS X, 10.4.7, mail.app, apple mail</tags>	<strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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		<title>AppleInsider&#8217;s 10.4.7 Mail.app tease</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/05/18/appleinsiders-1047-mailapp-tease/</link>
		<comments>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/05/18/appleinsiders-1047-mailapp-tease/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 13:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Gaden</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[AppleInsider has revealed that the instructions accompanying the first builds of 10.4.7 are asking testers to focus their attention on Mail.app among other things.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/wp-images/applelogogrey100px.jpg" height="121" width="100" border="0" align="right" hspace="10" vspace="0" alt="applelogogrey100px" title="applelogogrey100px" />AppleInsider <a href="http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1752">has revealed</a> <img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/images/extlink.jpg"/> that the instructions accompanying the first builds of 10.4.7 are asking testers to focus their attention on Mail.app among other things.</p>
<p>That would be nice, especially since the last update, 10.4.6, <a href="http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/04/1046-mail-gpgmail-and-mailstamps-issues/">didn&#8217;t offer much</a> <img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/images/extlink.jpg"/> to Mail.app users.</p>
<p>No further details about possible changes have emerged, although an ever-hopeful poster on Apple&#8217;s Discussion Boards <a href="http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=485802&amp;tstart=0">asks</a> <img src="http://www.hawkwings.net/images/extlink.jpg"/> , if &#8220;they will finally add HTML Composition Support&#8221;.</p>
<p>I hope not. There are more important things that could be fixed first. Better IMAP implementation is at the top of my list. </p>
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