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	<title>Comments on: Leopard Mail&#8217;s stupid save attachments button</title>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2007/11/29/leopard-mails-stupid-save-attachments-button/comment-page-1/#comment-293237</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad I read this thread, because I wasn&#039;t aware that simply clicking the Save button actually saved it. I was under the impression that I needed to use the drop-down menu first. Much better. 

Regarding Leopard&#039;s Downloads folder: I dumped that immediately. I think it was a good thing for beginner who didn&#039;t know they could create a folder in their Docs and point all applications to save downloads there (and then put a shortcut of it in the Dock). I further went and placed a separate &quot;Mail Downloads&quot; folder in my Downloads folder, simply to keep the clutter to a minimum and remember where things live. 

I&#039;m a just new convert from Entourage, and my list of Mail/Address Book irks is long. I won&#039;t derail the thread, but I&#039;ll just mention one: 

1. Checking If They&#039;re Already In Address Book. If I get an email from someone, I like to know if they&#039;re already in my Address Book. In Entourage, you&#039;d right-click, select &quot;Add to Address Book&quot; and if they were already in there, a window would pop up, saying, this already exists, would you like to add to it, or just open the contact. In Mail, there&#039;s no such checking, so clicking on &quot;Add to Address Book&quot; can end up duplicating and triplicating what&#039;s already there.

Oddly enough, sometimes a right-click on someone&#039;s email address, who is already in ones Address Book, will bring up an &quot;Open in Address Book&quot; which is a very handy feature. However, it&#039;s extremely inconsistent. My own brother&#039;s emails don&#039;t work like that. But odd companies, whom I rarely get email from, will show it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad I read this thread, because I wasn&#8217;t aware that simply clicking the Save button actually saved it. I was under the impression that I needed to use the drop-down menu first. Much better. </p>
<p>Regarding Leopard&#8217;s Downloads folder: I dumped that immediately. I think it was a good thing for beginner who didn&#8217;t know they could create a folder in their Docs and point all applications to save downloads there (and then put a shortcut of it in the Dock). I further went and placed a separate &#8220;Mail Downloads&#8221; folder in my Downloads folder, simply to keep the clutter to a minimum and remember where things live. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a just new convert from Entourage, and my list of Mail/Address Book irks is long. I won&#8217;t derail the thread, but I&#8217;ll just mention one: </p>
<p>1. Checking If They&#8217;re Already In Address Book. If I get an email from someone, I like to know if they&#8217;re already in my Address Book. In Entourage, you&#8217;d right-click, select &#8220;Add to Address Book&#8221; and if they were already in there, a window would pop up, saying, this already exists, would you like to add to it, or just open the contact. In Mail, there&#8217;s no such checking, so clicking on &#8220;Add to Address Book&#8221; can end up duplicating and triplicating what&#8217;s already there.</p>
<p>Oddly enough, sometimes a right-click on someone&#8217;s email address, who is already in ones Address Book, will bring up an &#8220;Open in Address Book&#8221; which is a very handy feature. However, it&#8217;s extremely inconsistent. My own brother&#8217;s emails don&#8217;t work like that. But odd companies, whom I rarely get email from, will show it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lachlan</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2007/11/29/leopard-mails-stupid-save-attachments-button/comment-page-1/#comment-292149</link>
		<dc:creator>Lachlan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the same issue with Mail pinging on launch as Tycho has pointed out above - not sure if it&#039;s widespread ... Invariably I launch Mail, it makes an audible no new mail sound after a second, then checks for mail and shows I have new messages. The order of the audible feedback seems out of whack to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the same issue with Mail pinging on launch as Tycho has pointed out above &#8211; not sure if it&#8217;s widespread &#8230; Invariably I launch Mail, it makes an audible no new mail sound after a second, then checks for mail and shows I have new messages. The order of the audible feedback seems out of whack to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Tycho</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2007/11/29/leopard-mails-stupid-save-attachments-button/comment-page-1/#comment-291681</link>
		<dc:creator>Tycho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and while we&#039;re on the subject of Leopard Mail&#039;s &#039;stupidities&#039;, has anyone noticed that the &#039;No Mail&#039; audio ping, after a Get Mail, has nothing to do with whether or not there&#039;s mail in absolute terms; it pings after a short period of time, even if Mail is still checking!  (In my experience at least)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and while we&#8217;re on the subject of Leopard Mail&#8217;s &#8216;stupidities&#8217;, has anyone noticed that the &#8216;No Mail&#8217; audio ping, after a Get Mail, has nothing to do with whether or not there&#8217;s mail in absolute terms; it pings after a short period of time, even if Mail is still checking!  (In my experience at least)</p>
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		<title>By: Tycho</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2007/11/29/leopard-mails-stupid-save-attachments-button/comment-page-1/#comment-291678</link>
		<dc:creator>Tycho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I reckon it&#039;s one of those implementations that&#039;s actually confusing because of lack of feedback.  It would be absolutely fine if it responded to the click with a short-timed notification that said, &quot;All attachments saved to Downloads folder.&quot;

If only Mail.app had built-in and customisable Growl notifications...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I reckon it&#8217;s one of those implementations that&#8217;s actually confusing because of lack of feedback.  It would be absolutely fine if it responded to the click with a short-timed notification that said, &#8220;All attachments saved to Downloads folder.&#8221;</p>
<p>If only Mail.app had built-in and customisable Growl notifications&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pecos Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pecos Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does need a GUI redesign. The triangle has to go and a gear icon and menu needs to be added. Not sure whether to add the gear to the save button or create a button with just the gear. Otherwise, I like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does need a GUI redesign. The triangle has to go and a gear icon and menu needs to be added. Not sure whether to add the gear to the save button or create a button with just the gear. Otherwise, I like it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also have to respectfully disagree with Pierre and others. I think the design in Leopard works perfectly fine and is an improvement over the Tiger behavior.

I had absolutely no confusion when a single click downloaded the items to my Downloads folder. Nor was I confused by the little down-pointing arrow on the button indicating an extended click would display a menu with more options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also have to respectfully disagree with Pierre and others. I think the design in Leopard works perfectly fine and is an improvement over the Tiger behavior.</p>
<p>I had absolutely no confusion when a single click downloaded the items to my Downloads folder. Nor was I confused by the little down-pointing arrow on the button indicating an extended click would display a menu with more options.</p>
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		<title>By: max</title>
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		<dc:creator>max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s right - that&#039;s a completely stupid implementation.   Only this morning I hit it again and was surprised at hearing the drive do something and not know what had just happened.   Then I remembered.   Its idiotic - a button with a drop-down menu should pop-up the menu when you click it.   And the default behaviour should be - where do you want to save it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s right &#8211; that&#8217;s a completely stupid implementation.   Only this morning I hit it again and was surprised at hearing the drive do something and not know what had just happened.   Then I remembered.   Its idiotic &#8211; a button with a drop-down menu should pop-up the menu when you click it.   And the default behaviour should be &#8211; where do you want to save it?</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been an annoyance for me as well. While I am coming around to liking the Downloads folder for Safari, it&#039;s still an odd switch from Tiger. Since I don&#039;t store anything long term in my Downloads folder, this represents multiple extra steps for me to move things to where they belong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been an annoyance for me as well. While I am coming around to liking the Downloads folder for Safari, it&#8217;s still an odd switch from Tiger. Since I don&#8217;t store anything long term in my Downloads folder, this represents multiple extra steps for me to move things to where they belong.</p>
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		<title>By: artMonster</title>
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		<dc:creator>artMonster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have notice that Pierre often cites problems as being endemic to Leopard, but often turn out to be user error or misunderstanding, or some problem with his setup. He does find just enough UI gaffes to offset that tendency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have notice that Pierre often cites problems as being endemic to Leopard, but often turn out to be user error or misunderstanding, or some problem with his setup. He does find just enough UI gaffes to offset that tendency.</p>
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		<title>By: Tudor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tudor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the button works, both on single click (saves to Downloads folder) and on click-and-hold (that&#039;s why the arrow is there). It&#039;s OK with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the button works, both on single click (saves to Downloads folder) and on click-and-hold (that&#8217;s why the arrow is there). It&#8217;s OK with me.</p>
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