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	<title>Comments on: Correo: A new Camino-flavoured mail client</title>
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	<description>Tips and add-ons to make Apple Mail / Mail.app even better</description>
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		<title>By: Anthony Baker</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2007/01/10/correo-a-new-camino-flavoured-mail-client/comment-page-1/#comment-85188</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely love Apple Mail, but had to move off it because it doesn&#039;t play well with my company&#039;s SOCKS proxy. It&#039;s an issue that Entourage doesn&#039;t happen, but it had me move to Gmail, which I currently use. With Gmail, I&#039;ve got access to all mail, everything&#039;s sync&#039;d, etc.

While I dig Gmail -- and thank god for its keyboard shortcuts -- it does have its drawbacks. I hate having to set labels, I don&#039;t like how it handles threading (as much as I liked Apple Mail), I wish I had &quot;folders&quot;, I hate that there&#039;s limited ways to visually distinguish messages, I don&#039;t like the inability to get to an empty inbox, etc.

Methinks I&#039;ll give this app and/or Thunderbird a go.

As for Camino, one reason I went to it from Safari was the speed with which it renders anything from Google. Safari is much slower and doesn&#039;t support many of Gmail&#039;s keyboard shortcuts or rich text editing capabilities. Firefox on my G4 is dog slow and absolutely unusable.

Was never ever a Camino fan at all, but when testing different browsers for Gmail and Google Reader (moved there from Newsfire), I was sold. I do miss FF extensions, and do miss some of the add-ons for Safari, but c&#039;est la vie.

Hope Leopard fixes some of Apple Mail&#039;s current issues and hope that Correo develops well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely love Apple Mail, but had to move off it because it doesn&#8217;t play well with my company&#8217;s SOCKS proxy. It&#8217;s an issue that Entourage doesn&#8217;t happen, but it had me move to Gmail, which I currently use. With Gmail, I&#8217;ve got access to all mail, everything&#8217;s sync&#8217;d, etc.</p>
<p>While I dig Gmail &#8212; and thank god for its keyboard shortcuts &#8212; it does have its drawbacks. I hate having to set labels, I don&#8217;t like how it handles threading (as much as I liked Apple Mail), I wish I had &#8220;folders&#8221;, I hate that there&#8217;s limited ways to visually distinguish messages, I don&#8217;t like the inability to get to an empty inbox, etc.</p>
<p>Methinks I&#8217;ll give this app and/or Thunderbird a go.</p>
<p>As for Camino, one reason I went to it from Safari was the speed with which it renders anything from Google. Safari is much slower and doesn&#8217;t support many of Gmail&#8217;s keyboard shortcuts or rich text editing capabilities. Firefox on my G4 is dog slow and absolutely unusable.</p>
<p>Was never ever a Camino fan at all, but when testing different browsers for Gmail and Google Reader (moved there from Newsfire), I was sold. I do miss FF extensions, and do miss some of the add-ons for Safari, but c&#8217;est la vie.</p>
<p>Hope Leopard fixes some of Apple Mail&#8217;s current issues and hope that Correo develops well.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2007/01/10/correo-a-new-camino-flavoured-mail-client/comment-page-1/#comment-78517</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 10:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting stuff. Having defected from Windows to the Mac at home recently, I have been using the Mail app that comes with OSX and find it&#039;s fine for my use (3 pop accounts and a .Mac account)

I am looking forward to the new version in Leopard though - really just for the todo list integration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting stuff. Having defected from Windows to the Mac at home recently, I have been using the Mail app that comes with OSX and find it&#8217;s fine for my use (3 pop accounts and a .Mac account)</p>
<p>I am looking forward to the new version in Leopard though &#8211; really just for the todo list integration.</p>
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		<title>By: elmimmo</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2007/01/10/correo-a-new-camino-flavoured-mail-client/comment-page-1/#comment-78425</link>
		<dc:creator>elmimmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 09:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mail.app exports to plain old mbox just fine. It is just that the method is not obvious enough (or at all).

See the howto at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060706201156481&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MacOSXHints.com: Export Mail to mbox with Save Asâ€¦&lt;/a&gt;

According to &lt;a href=&quot;http://diveintomark.org/archives/2006/07/13/mail-checks-in&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DiveIntoMark.org: Mail.appâ€™s â€œSave asâ€ is broken&lt;/a&gt; it has a quirk, but seems to me like it would be trivial to fix with a text editor that supports &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_expressions&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;regular expressions&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mail.app exports to plain old mbox just fine. It is just that the method is not obvious enough (or at all).</p>
<p>See the howto at <a href="http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060706201156481" rel="nofollow">MacOSXHints.com: Export Mail to mbox with Save Asâ€¦</a></p>
<p>According to <a href="http://diveintomark.org/archives/2006/07/13/mail-checks-in" rel="nofollow">DiveIntoMark.org: Mail.appâ€™s â€œSave asâ€ is broken</a> it has a quirk, but seems to me like it would be trivial to fix with a text editor that supports <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_expressions" rel="nofollow">regular expressions</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: krampo</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2007/01/10/correo-a-new-camino-flavoured-mail-client/comment-page-1/#comment-78345</link>
		<dc:creator>krampo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 07:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked mail.app at the beginning, but now I have 5 IMAP accounts and I don&#039;t like how mail.app treats them. I like Thunderbird_style where each of these accounts have separate folders and rules and settings, that way it&#039;s easier to manage all of them. I hope that upcoming mail.app versions will do better and I won&#039;t have to install other mail clients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked mail.app at the beginning, but now I have 5 IMAP accounts and I don&#8217;t like how mail.app treats them. I like Thunderbird_style where each of these accounts have separate folders and rules and settings, that way it&#8217;s easier to manage all of them. I hope that upcoming mail.app versions will do better and I won&#8217;t have to install other mail clients.</p>
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		<title>By: Macy</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2007/01/10/correo-a-new-camino-flavoured-mail-client/comment-page-1/#comment-78258</link>
		<dc:creator>Macy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 05:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Mail too, but when are we going to have an easy option to tie into blacklist and such, like Vipul&#039;s Razor? A mail filter for spam is ok, but it is SO out of hand that I&#039;d rather block it BEFORE I have to download it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Mail too, but when are we going to have an easy option to tie into blacklist and such, like Vipul&#8217;s Razor? A mail filter for spam is ok, but it is SO out of hand that I&#8217;d rather block it BEFORE I have to download it.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 00:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he want to take on the big guys, then it&#039;s really simple: Add in everything which is in PINE, for which there isn&#039;t as yet a solid Macintosh version, otherwise it&#039;s just a skin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he want to take on the big guys, then it&#8217;s really simple: Add in everything which is in PINE, for which there isn&#8217;t as yet a solid Macintosh version, otherwise it&#8217;s just a skin.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Hobbs</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2007/01/10/correo-a-new-camino-flavoured-mail-client/comment-page-1/#comment-78009</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Hobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 00:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s feature #1 that all email clients are missing....

If you want me to buy this, a one thing first, the ability to save off older email, and re-open archived mail without fiddling with folders. Why automatic history preservation isn&#039;t a part of email clients is beyond me.

I envision a flyour menu something like &quot;Archive old Mail&quot; with checkboxes to save just mail, or mail with attachments. Select a date range then it compresses the whole thing into an archive.

Another flyout menu would have &quot;Search old mail Archive&quot; and allow searching and display without unzipping the entire archive and fiddling around.  

That would make me plunk down my Paypal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s feature #1 that all email clients are missing&#8230;.</p>
<p>If you want me to buy this, a one thing first, the ability to save off older email, and re-open archived mail without fiddling with folders. Why automatic history preservation isn&#8217;t a part of email clients is beyond me.</p>
<p>I envision a flyour menu something like &#8220;Archive old Mail&#8221; with checkboxes to save just mail, or mail with attachments. Select a date range then it compresses the whole thing into an archive.</p>
<p>Another flyout menu would have &#8220;Search old mail Archive&#8221; and allow searching and display without unzipping the entire archive and fiddling around.  </p>
<p>That would make me plunk down my Paypal.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Kelley</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2007/01/10/correo-a-new-camino-flavoured-mail-client/comment-page-1/#comment-78005</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Kelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 00:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Foobar

I have always called it (and heard it been called) Apple Mail. Also, What do you consider large amounts of mail? I have about a gig of mail (some 18,000 emails) in it from the past couple years and it&#039;s still very fast at searching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Foobar</p>
<p>I have always called it (and heard it been called) Apple Mail. Also, What do you consider large amounts of mail? I have about a gig of mail (some 18,000 emails) in it from the past couple years and it&#8217;s still very fast at searching.</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
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		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mail.app is dumb... i use it and like it&#039;s simple interface over thunderbird, but mail.app? that&#039;s just dumb. thunderbird on linux and windows rules though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mail.app is dumb&#8230; i use it and like it&#8217;s simple interface over thunderbird, but mail.app? that&#8217;s just dumb. thunderbird on linux and windows rules though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2007/01/10/correo-a-new-camino-flavoured-mail-client/comment-page-1/#comment-77993</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Foobar:

Mail is referred to (outside Apple) as Mail.app because &quot;Mail&quot; is far too common a word to use to identify it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Foobar:</p>
<p>Mail is referred to (outside Apple) as Mail.app because &#8220;Mail&#8221; is far too common a word to use to identify it.</p>
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