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	<title>Comments on: Correo: A new Camino-flavoured mail client</title>
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	<description>Tips and add-ons to make Apple Mail / Mail.app even better</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anthony Baker</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2007/01/10/correo-a-new-camino-flavoured-mail-client/#comment-85188</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely love Apple Mail, but had to move off it because it doesn't play well with my company's SOCKS proxy. It's an issue that Entourage doesn't happen, but it had me move to Gmail, which I currently use. With Gmail, I've got access to all mail, everything's sync'd, etc.

While I dig Gmail -- and thank god for its keyboard shortcuts -- it does have its drawbacks. I hate having to set labels, I don't like how it handles threading (as much as I liked Apple Mail), I wish I had "folders", I hate that there's limited ways to visually distinguish messages, I don't like the inability to get to an empty inbox, etc.

Methinks I'll give this app and/or Thunderbird a go.

As for Camino, one reason I went to it from Safari was the speed with which it renders anything from Google. Safari is much slower and doesn't support many of Gmail's keyboard shortcuts or rich text editing capabilities. Firefox on my G4 is dog slow and absolutely unusable.

Was never ever a Camino fan at all, but when testing different browsers for Gmail and Google Reader (moved there from Newsfire), I was sold. I do miss FF extensions, and do miss some of the add-ons for Safari, but c'est la vie.

Hope Leopard fixes some of Apple Mail's current issues and hope that Correo develops well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely love Apple Mail, but had to move off it because it doesn&#8217;t play well with my company&#8217;s SOCKS proxy. It&#8217;s an issue that Entourage doesn&#8217;t happen, but it had me move to Gmail, which I currently use. With Gmail, I&#8217;ve got access to all mail, everything&#8217;s sync&#8217;d, etc.</p>
<p>While I dig Gmail &#8212; and thank god for its keyboard shortcuts &#8212; it does have its drawbacks. I hate having to set labels, I don&#8217;t like how it handles threading (as much as I liked Apple Mail), I wish I had &#8220;folders&#8221;, I hate that there&#8217;s limited ways to visually distinguish messages, I don&#8217;t like the inability to get to an empty inbox, etc.</p>
<p>Methinks I&#8217;ll give this app and/or Thunderbird a go.</p>
<p>As for Camino, one reason I went to it from Safari was the speed with which it renders anything from Google. Safari is much slower and doesn&#8217;t support many of Gmail&#8217;s keyboard shortcuts or rich text editing capabilities. Firefox on my G4 is dog slow and absolutely unusable.</p>
<p>Was never ever a Camino fan at all, but when testing different browsers for Gmail and Google Reader (moved there from Newsfire), I was sold. I do miss FF extensions, and do miss some of the add-ons for Safari, but c&#8217;est la vie.</p>
<p>Hope Leopard fixes some of Apple Mail&#8217;s current issues and hope that Correo develops well.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2007/01/10/correo-a-new-camino-flavoured-mail-client/#comment-78517</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 10:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting stuff. Having defected from Windows to the Mac at home recently, I have been using the Mail app that comes with OSX and find it's fine for my use (3 pop accounts and a .Mac account)

I am looking forward to the new version in Leopard though - really just for the todo list integration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting stuff. Having defected from Windows to the Mac at home recently, I have been using the Mail app that comes with OSX and find it&#8217;s fine for my use (3 pop accounts and a .Mac account)</p>
<p>I am looking forward to the new version in Leopard though - really just for the todo list integration.</p>
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		<title>By: elmimmo</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2007/01/10/correo-a-new-camino-flavoured-mail-client/#comment-78425</link>
		<dc:creator>elmimmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 09:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mail.app exports to plain old mbox just fine. It is just that the method is not obvious enough (or at all).

See the howto at &lt;a href="http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060706201156481" rel="nofollow"&gt;MacOSXHints.com: Export Mail to mbox with Save Asâ€¦&lt;/a&gt;

According to &lt;a href="http://diveintomark.org/archives/2006/07/13/mail-checks-in" rel="nofollow"&gt;DiveIntoMark.org: Mail.appâ€™s â€œSave asâ€ is broken&lt;/a&gt; it has a quirk, but seems to me like it would be trivial to fix with a text editor that supports &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_expressions" rel="nofollow"&gt;regular expressions&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mail.app exports to plain old mbox just fine. It is just that the method is not obvious enough (or at all).</p>
<p>See the howto at <a href="http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060706201156481" rel="nofollow">MacOSXHints.com: Export Mail to mbox with Save Asâ€¦</a></p>
<p>According to <a href="http://diveintomark.org/archives/2006/07/13/mail-checks-in" rel="nofollow">DiveIntoMark.org: Mail.appâ€™s â€œSave asâ€ is broken</a> it has a quirk, but seems to me like it would be trivial to fix with a text editor that supports <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_expressions" rel="nofollow">regular expressions</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: krampo</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2007/01/10/correo-a-new-camino-flavoured-mail-client/#comment-78345</link>
		<dc:creator>krampo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 07:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked mail.app at the beginning, but now I have 5 IMAP accounts and I don't like how mail.app treats them. I like Thunderbird_style where each of these accounts have separate folders and rules and settings, that way it's easier to manage all of them. I hope that upcoming mail.app versions will do better and I won't have to install other mail clients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked mail.app at the beginning, but now I have 5 IMAP accounts and I don&#8217;t like how mail.app treats them. I like Thunderbird_style where each of these accounts have separate folders and rules and settings, that way it&#8217;s easier to manage all of them. I hope that upcoming mail.app versions will do better and I won&#8217;t have to install other mail clients.</p>
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		<title>By: Macy</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2007/01/10/correo-a-new-camino-flavoured-mail-client/#comment-78258</link>
		<dc:creator>Macy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 05:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Mail too, but when are we going to have an easy option to tie into blacklist and such, like Vipul's Razor? A mail filter for spam is ok, but it is SO out of hand that I'd rather block it BEFORE I have to download it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Mail too, but when are we going to have an easy option to tie into blacklist and such, like Vipul&#8217;s Razor? A mail filter for spam is ok, but it is SO out of hand that I&#8217;d rather block it BEFORE I have to download it.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2007/01/10/correo-a-new-camino-flavoured-mail-client/#comment-78028</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 00:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he want to take on the big guys, then it's really simple: Add in everything which is in PINE, for which there isn't as yet a solid Macintosh version, otherwise it's just a skin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he want to take on the big guys, then it&#8217;s really simple: Add in everything which is in PINE, for which there isn&#8217;t as yet a solid Macintosh version, otherwise it&#8217;s just a skin.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Hobbs</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2007/01/10/correo-a-new-camino-flavoured-mail-client/#comment-78009</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Hobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 00:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's feature #1 that all email clients are missing....

If you want me to buy this, a one thing first, the ability to save off older email, and re-open archived mail without fiddling with folders. Why automatic history preservation isn't a part of email clients is beyond me.

I envision a flyour menu something like "Archive old Mail" with checkboxes to save just mail, or mail with attachments. Select a date range then it compresses the whole thing into an archive.

Another flyout menu would have "Search old mail Archive" and allow searching and display without unzipping the entire archive and fiddling around.  

That would make me plunk down my Paypal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s feature #1 that all email clients are missing&#8230;.</p>
<p>If you want me to buy this, a one thing first, the ability to save off older email, and re-open archived mail without fiddling with folders. Why automatic history preservation isn&#8217;t a part of email clients is beyond me.</p>
<p>I envision a flyour menu something like &#8220;Archive old Mail&#8221; with checkboxes to save just mail, or mail with attachments. Select a date range then it compresses the whole thing into an archive.</p>
<p>Another flyout menu would have &#8220;Search old mail Archive&#8221; and allow searching and display without unzipping the entire archive and fiddling around.  </p>
<p>That would make me plunk down my Paypal.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Kelley</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2007/01/10/correo-a-new-camino-flavoured-mail-client/#comment-78005</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Kelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 00:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Foobar

I have always called it (and heard it been called) Apple Mail. Also, What do you consider large amounts of mail? I have about a gig of mail (some 18,000 emails) in it from the past couple years and it's still very fast at searching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Foobar</p>
<p>I have always called it (and heard it been called) Apple Mail. Also, What do you consider large amounts of mail? I have about a gig of mail (some 18,000 emails) in it from the past couple years and it&#8217;s still very fast at searching.</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
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		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mail.app is dumb... i use it and like it's simple interface over thunderbird, but mail.app? that's just dumb. thunderbird on linux and windows rules though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mail.app is dumb&#8230; i use it and like it&#8217;s simple interface over thunderbird, but mail.app? that&#8217;s just dumb. thunderbird on linux and windows rules though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2007/01/10/correo-a-new-camino-flavoured-mail-client/#comment-77993</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Foobar:

Mail is referred to (outside Apple) as Mail.app because "Mail" is far too common a word to use to identify it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Foobar:</p>
<p>Mail is referred to (outside Apple) as Mail.app because &#8220;Mail&#8221; is far too common a word to use to identify it.</p>
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