Comments on: To bounce or not to bounce; that is the question (again) http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/11/20/to-bounce-or-not-to-bounce-that-is-the-question-again/ Tips and add-ons to make Apple Mail / Mail.app even better Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:45:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Dan Peterson http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/11/20/to-bounce-or-not-to-bounce-that-is-the-question-again/#comment-41253 Dan Peterson Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:41:16 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/11/20/to-bounce-or-not-to-bounce-that-is-the-question-again/#comment-41253 I agree with Mr. Shockley above. DON'T BOUNCE SPAM. I receive hundreds of bounced email every day because of spammers who spoof my domain. I agree with Mr. Shockley above. DON’T BOUNCE SPAM. I receive hundreds of bounced email every day because of spammers who spoof my domain.

]]> By: Daniel A. Shockley http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/11/20/to-bounce-or-not-to-bounce-that-is-the-question-again/#comment-40898 Daniel A. Shockley Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:23:31 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/11/20/to-bounce-or-not-to-bounce-that-is-the-question-again/#comment-40898 Ack! I get "spam bounces" all the time from mail that I did not send out. Spammers use FAKE addresses for the From address. This is a very bad suggestion, except where you think there is a real, solid, cares-about-bounces company at the other end. Most of the time you're just doubling the amount of junk crossing the Internet and the spammer never sees your bounce. Instead, YOU are becoming a spammer. Don't do it. Ack!

I get “spam bounces” all the time from mail that I did not send out. Spammers use FAKE addresses for the From address.

This is a very bad suggestion, except where you think there is a real, solid, cares-about-bounces company at the other end. Most of the time you’re just doubling the amount of junk crossing the Internet and the spammer never sees your bounce. Instead, YOU are becoming a spammer. Don’t do it.

]]> By: FJ http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/11/20/to-bounce-or-not-to-bounce-that-is-the-question-again/#comment-40719 FJ Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:27:29 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/11/20/to-bounce-or-not-to-bounce-that-is-the-question-again/#comment-40719 It definitely is not a simple yes or no answer, although it can help in many cases, notably with "legitimate" SPAM: messages from reputable companies that seem to never get around to unsubscribing you or, worse, have lost track of your address in their database – it does happen a lot. I did confirm with the Mail team at a time that they did not add "Bounce" to the rules in the original versions of Mail out of fear that people would automatically bounce all junk, which could cause email flood loops. - FJ It definitely is not a simple yes or no answer, although it can help in many cases, notably with “legitimate” SPAM: messages from reputable companies that seem to never get around to unsubscribing you or, worse, have lost track of your address in their database – it does happen a lot.

I did confirm with the Mail team at a time that they did not add “Bounce” to the rules in the original versions of Mail out of fear that people would automatically bounce all junk, which could cause email flood loops.

- FJ

]]> By: Bruce Cohen http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/11/20/to-bounce-or-not-to-bounce-that-is-the-question-again/#comment-40718 Bruce Cohen Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:25:44 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/11/20/to-bounce-or-not-to-bounce-that-is-the-question-again/#comment-40718 I don't think bouncing messages helps that much.. .I have an e-mail address that started gettting a lot of SPAM about 2 yrs ago when I accidently used it for a newsgroup posting. My mail provider (at the time) allowed me to shut down that e-mail address so *all* messages to that e-mail address would bounce. After a year of bouncing messages I activated the e-mail address again and the SPAM started flowing. I've also tried solutions like 'sp@mx' where SPAM messages are reported to the ISP's. I used a custom e-mail address to report the SPAM messages, an address that was used for no other purpose. I started getting SPAM on that address. I don’t think bouncing messages helps that much.. .I have an e-mail address that started gettting a lot of SPAM about 2 yrs ago when I accidently used it for a newsgroup posting. My mail provider (at the time) allowed me to shut down that e-mail address so *all* messages to that e-mail address would bounce. After a year of bouncing messages I activated the e-mail address again and the SPAM started flowing.

I’ve also tried solutions like ’sp@mx’ where SPAM messages are reported to the ISP’s. I used a custom e-mail address to report the SPAM messages, an address that was used for no other purpose. I started getting SPAM on that address.

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