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	<title>Comments on: Mail.app on Mac trumps Ubuntu hands down</title>
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	<description>Tips and add-ons to make Apple Mail / Mail.app even better</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 04:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: noname</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/11/16/20061116mailapp-on-mac-trumps-ubuntu-hands-down/#comment-105267</link>
		<dc:creator>noname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ever heard of "killall evolution"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ever heard of &#8220;killall evolution&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Andrzejewski</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/11/16/20061116mailapp-on-mac-trumps-ubuntu-hands-down/#comment-44413</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Andrzejewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also Mail.app only works with IMAP for Mail.app. Most corporate locations block this protocol due to being in clear text if not tunneled in SSL and only allow the direct Exchange protocol and OWA. 

Entourage via OWA works, but could be WAY better.

I've tried to get evolution to work via OWA, but getting a big middle finger from evolution on authentication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also Mail.app only works with IMAP for Mail.app. Most corporate locations block this protocol due to being in clear text if not tunneled in SSL and only allow the direct Exchange protocol and OWA. </p>
<p>Entourage via OWA works, but could be WAY better.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried to get evolution to work via OWA, but getting a big middle finger from evolution on authentication.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/11/16/20061116mailapp-on-mac-trumps-ubuntu-hands-down/#comment-40477</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 21:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not taking a side in this endless debate (I use OSX and Mailsmith, which renders any opinion I'd have on the subject laughable), &lt;strong&gt;but&lt;/strong&gt; this bit 

&lt;blockquote&gt;As it is, Mail.app rocks for processing my personal email really efficiently. Oh, and it can export your mail to mbox.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

isn't true.  Mail.app may indeed rock for Tim Shadel's personal email processing, but it doens't export to mbox.  Mark Pilgram &lt;a href="http://diveintomark.org/archives/2006/07/13/mail-checks-in" rel="nofollow"&gt;covered that&lt;/a&gt; already.

(short version, Mail.app doesn't quote/munge the From line of an exported message properly. This creates a format that's almost mbox, but not quite, and one that will be borked by all existing import scripts)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not taking a side in this endless debate (I use OSX and Mailsmith, which renders any opinion I&#8217;d have on the subject laughable), <strong>but</strong> this bit </p>
<blockquote><p>As it is, Mail.app rocks for processing my personal email really efficiently. Oh, and it can export your mail to mbox.</p></blockquote>
<p>isn&#8217;t true.  Mail.app may indeed rock for Tim Shadel&#8217;s personal email processing, but it doens&#8217;t export to mbox.  Mark Pilgram <a href="http://diveintomark.org/archives/2006/07/13/mail-checks-in" rel="nofollow">covered that</a> already.</p>
<p>(short version, Mail.app doesn&#8217;t quote/munge the From line of an exported message properly. This creates a format that&#8217;s almost mbox, but not quite, and one that will be borked by all existing import scripts)</p>
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		<title>By: mdhills</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/11/16/20061116mailapp-on-mac-trumps-ubuntu-hands-down/#comment-39634</link>
		<dc:creator>mdhills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd think that anyone who isn't comfortable using killall or pkill would be much more comfortable with MacOSX than with linux.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d think that anyone who isn&#8217;t comfortable using killall or pkill would be much more comfortable with MacOSX than with linux.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/11/16/20061116mailapp-on-mac-trumps-ubuntu-hands-down/#comment-39387</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 01:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œAfter years of Linux work, Iâ€™m tired of fiddling.â€

I hear ya buddy!

Same for me, after 12 years of Linux "almost works" switching to Mac "It just works" was a breathe of fresh air...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œAfter years of Linux work, Iâ€™m tired of fiddling.â€</p>
<p>I hear ya buddy!</p>
<p>Same for me, after 12 years of Linux &#8220;almost works&#8221; switching to Mac &#8220;It just works&#8221; was a breathe of fresh air&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pog</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/11/16/20061116mailapp-on-mac-trumps-ubuntu-hands-down/#comment-39316</link>
		<dc:creator>Pog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 21:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"After years of Linux work, Iâ€™m tired of fiddling."

This summed up my experience exactly. I spent 10 years futzing around with linux on the command line trying to get things to work. With the Mac I get the full Unix/X11 enviroment I need to be productive at work and home, and also the superior user interface and apps of the Mac. 

I find it hard to believe people honestly switched to Ubuntu because of Mail.app sucking, I mean there are alternatives, for example you could probably install Evolution on the Mac if you really wanted to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;After years of Linux work, Iâ€™m tired of fiddling.&#8221;</p>
<p>This summed up my experience exactly. I spent 10 years futzing around with linux on the command line trying to get things to work. With the Mac I get the full Unix/X11 enviroment I need to be productive at work and home, and also the superior user interface and apps of the Mac. </p>
<p>I find it hard to believe people honestly switched to Ubuntu because of Mail.app sucking, I mean there are alternatives, for example you could probably install Evolution on the Mac if you really wanted to.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/11/16/20061116mailapp-on-mac-trumps-ubuntu-hands-down/#comment-39277</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Set up a SUSE box last weekend.  I began to configure email using Evolution since I was running gnome.  I have a lot of email rules in Entourage that redirect email to other people.   Strangely enough, I could not find an option to redirect or even to forward an email using a rule.  Couldn't beleive it.  Loaded Thunderbird instead since you can at least forward an email using a rule.

It's such a strange and obvious oversight that I almost believe I missed something.  In fact, let me know if Evolution is actually capable of rule-based forwards or redirects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Set up a SUSE box last weekend.  I began to configure email using Evolution since I was running gnome.  I have a lot of email rules in Entourage that redirect email to other people.   Strangely enough, I could not find an option to redirect or even to forward an email using a rule.  Couldn&#8217;t beleive it.  Loaded Thunderbird instead since you can at least forward an email using a rule.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s such a strange and obvious oversight that I almost believe I missed something.  In fact, let me know if Evolution is actually capable of rule-based forwards or redirects.</p>
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		<title>By: Mactard</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/11/16/20061116mailapp-on-mac-trumps-ubuntu-hands-down/#comment-39276</link>
		<dc:creator>Mactard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woo hoo mail.app trumps. I'm jerking off now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woo hoo mail.app trumps. I&#8217;m jerking off now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/11/16/20061116mailapp-on-mac-trumps-ubuntu-hands-down/#comment-39217</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 15:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark Pilgrim came off as a pompous ass when he wrote his flamebaiting argument about why he left the mac. Instead of just saying that he prefers a more traditional unix type environment, he attacked Apple and the people who own them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Pilgrim came off as a pompous ass when he wrote his flamebaiting argument about why he left the mac. Instead of just saying that he prefers a more traditional unix type environment, he attacked Apple and the people who own them.</p>
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