Comments on: EagleFiler: tag-smart, open-format PIM http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/10/16/eaglefiler-tag-smart-open-format-pim/ Tips and add-ons to make Apple Mail / Mail.app even better Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:58:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Alex http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/10/16/eaglefiler-tag-smart-open-format-pim/#comment-38006 Alex Mon, 13 Nov 2006 11:27:18 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/10/16/eaglefiler-tag-smart-open-format-pim/#comment-38006 Hmm... I just tried EagleFiler. I put 2 files in it, a web page and a 28k jpg. My library folder is only 328k in size. I opened Activity Monitor to compare it to Yojimbo, and am shocked with what I've seen: EagleFiler - Real Memory: 73.73mb Virtual Memory: 423.70mb Yojimbo - Real Memory: 22.36mb Virtual Memory: 461.48mb Yojimbo Helper - Real Memory: 8.44mb Virtual Memory: 360.84mb In my opinion, all three are using way too much memory. But, to be fair, I have been running Yojimbo consistently for months now and put a lot of data in to it. Why the hell does Eagle Filer need so much memory after running for 2 minutes with 2 files? I was planning to run both side by side as I prefer the ability to store and encrypt login details with Yojimbo, but I think I'll stick with Yojimbo for now because it just seems an unncessary drain on my system to run both. Can anyone tell me how EagleFiler's memory usage is after some time and use? Thanks, Alex Hmm… I just tried EagleFiler. I put 2 files in it, a web page and a 28k jpg. My library folder is only 328k in size.

I opened Activity Monitor to compare it to Yojimbo, and am shocked with what I’ve seen:

EagleFiler - Real Memory: 73.73mb Virtual Memory: 423.70mb
Yojimbo - Real Memory: 22.36mb Virtual Memory: 461.48mb
Yojimbo Helper - Real Memory: 8.44mb Virtual Memory: 360.84mb

In my opinion, all three are using way too much memory. But, to be fair, I have been running Yojimbo consistently for months now and put a lot of data in to it. Why the hell does Eagle Filer need so much memory after running for 2 minutes with 2 files?

I was planning to run both side by side as I prefer the ability to store and encrypt login details with Yojimbo, but I think I’ll stick with Yojimbo for now because it just seems an unncessary drain on my system to run both.

Can anyone tell me how EagleFiler’s memory usage is after some time and use?

Thanks,

Alex

]]> By: Ayjay http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/10/16/eaglefiler-tag-smart-open-format-pim/#comment-29081 Ayjay Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:19:01 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/10/16/eaglefiler-tag-smart-open-format-pim/#comment-29081 Yojimbo's data is in your Library > Application Support > Yojimbo. Yojimbo’s data is in your Library > Application Support > Yojimbo.

]]> By: matonmacs http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/10/16/eaglefiler-tag-smart-open-format-pim/#comment-28577 matonmacs Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:22:05 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/10/16/eaglefiler-tag-smart-open-format-pim/#comment-28577 Argh! I just switch from then Stickybrain to Yojimbo, now Eagle Filer comes along. I like the fact that it stores things within the regular file structure instead of a proprietary database a la SOHO Notes or the weird hidden Yojimbo library (at least I don't know where it is). On the other hand, how many of these things do we need?! What I'd like to know is what the future development plans for these programs are. If Eagle Filer will have the robust Applescript support that Yojimbo lacks maybe that would be enough to get me to switch. I agree with the above poster, however, I thinking that a cross-grade discount would be nice. It'd be nice if somebody would do a comprehensive comparative review. Oh and EF needs a better icon (not that Yojimbo's is any good either)! Argh! I just switch from then Stickybrain to Yojimbo, now Eagle Filer comes along. I like the fact that it stores things within the regular file structure instead of a proprietary database a la SOHO Notes or the weird hidden Yojimbo library (at least I don’t know where it is). On the other hand, how many of these things do we need?!

What I’d like to know is what the future development plans for these programs are. If Eagle Filer will have the robust Applescript support that Yojimbo lacks maybe that would be enough to get me to switch. I agree with the above poster, however, I thinking that a cross-grade discount would be nice.

It’d be nice if somebody would do a comprehensive comparative review.

Oh and EF needs a better icon (not that Yojimbo’s is any good either)!

]]> By: CM Harrington http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/10/16/eaglefiler-tag-smart-open-format-pim/#comment-28553 CM Harrington Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:42:55 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/10/16/eaglefiler-tag-smart-open-format-pim/#comment-28553 I've always been a fan of MacJournal. Back when it was freeware, I thought it was amazing, however the one thing I wanted, nested journals, didn't come until after it was purchased by Mariner Software, and turned into a payware application. Eventually, I caved in, and purchased it, and couldn't be happier. It does everything I want... a system-wide Service to add to MacJournal, multiple, nested journals, multiple pages per journal, tagging, smart groups, posting to weblogs, etc. To be honest, I don't find the "mail.app-like" 3 pane approach to work for a scrap management tool, so this works best for me. Interestingly enough, I found MacJournal while trying to find a replacement for the Classic "Notepad" application, and I've never looked back. I’ve always been a fan of MacJournal. Back when it was freeware, I thought it was amazing, however the one thing I wanted, nested journals, didn’t come until after it was purchased by Mariner Software, and turned into a payware application. Eventually, I caved in, and purchased it, and couldn’t be happier.

It does everything I want… a system-wide Service to add to MacJournal, multiple, nested journals, multiple pages per journal, tagging, smart groups, posting to weblogs, etc.

To be honest, I don’t find the “mail.app-like” 3 pane approach to work for a scrap management tool, so this works best for me.

Interestingly enough, I found MacJournal while trying to find a replacement for the Classic “Notepad” application, and I’ve never looked back.

]]> By: Donald Perreault http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/10/16/eaglefiler-tag-smart-open-format-pim/#comment-28545 Donald Perreault Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:59:36 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/10/16/eaglefiler-tag-smart-open-format-pim/#comment-28545 I have been switching between StickyBrain (SOHONotes) and Yojimbo as my primary file manager for months. Neither of them completely capable of my needs. Yesterday I installed EagleFiler and imported my saved files from SOHO and Yojimbo, spent some time tagging the files and I have to say EagleFiler performs flawlessly. The ability to tag the files with Keywords is necessary for a great File Manager. Both StickyBrain and Yojimbo force the user to use categories for filing which is very limiting. I have been switching between StickyBrain (SOHONotes) and Yojimbo as my primary file manager for months. Neither of them completely capable of my needs. Yesterday I installed EagleFiler and imported my saved files from SOHO and Yojimbo, spent some time tagging the files and I have to say EagleFiler performs flawlessly. The ability to tag the files with Keywords is necessary for a great File Manager. Both StickyBrain and Yojimbo force the user to use categories for filing which is very limiting.

]]> By: Donald Perreault http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/10/16/eaglefiler-tag-smart-open-format-pim/#comment-28544 Donald Perreault Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:59:35 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/10/16/eaglefiler-tag-smart-open-format-pim/#comment-28544 I have been switching between StickyBrain (SOHONotes) and Yojimbo as my primary file manager for months. Neither of them completely capable of my needs. Yesterday I installed EagleFiler and imported my saved files from SOHO and Yojimbo, spent some time tagging the files and I have to say EagleFiler performs flawlessly. The ability to tag the files with Keywords is necessary for a great File Manager. Both StickyBrain and Yojimbo force the user to use categories for filing which is very limiting. I have been switching between StickyBrain (SOHONotes) and Yojimbo as my primary file manager for months. Neither of them completely capable of my needs. Yesterday I installed EagleFiler and imported my saved files from SOHO and Yojimbo, spent some time tagging the files and I have to say EagleFiler performs flawlessly. The ability to tag the files with Keywords is necessary for a great File Manager. Both StickyBrain and Yojimbo force the user to use categories for filing which is very limiting.

]]> By: Alan Jacobs http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/10/16/eaglefiler-tag-smart-open-format-pim/#comment-28541 Alan Jacobs Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:10:40 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/10/16/eaglefiler-tag-smart-open-format-pim/#comment-28541 No worries, Tim! You're right that "there is a significant difference between a searchable comment and a tag"; I just want to suggest that some of what people want from tags can be accomplished via the searchable comments of Yojimbo. That's how I use the app, anyway. When (if?) Yojimbo gets user-defined smart folders, it will be a lot closer to having the full functionality of tags, though it will probably never match EagleFiler in this regard. No worries, Tim! You’re right that “there is a significant difference between a searchable comment and a tag”; I just want to suggest that some of what people want from tags can be accomplished via the searchable comments of Yojimbo. That’s how I use the app, anyway. When (if?) Yojimbo gets user-defined smart folders, it will be a lot closer to having the full functionality of tags, though it will probably never match EagleFiler in this regard.

]]> By: Tim http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/10/16/eaglefiler-tag-smart-open-format-pim/#comment-28538 Tim Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:06:19 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/10/16/eaglefiler-tag-smart-open-format-pim/#comment-28538 Sorry, Alan, I'm a cantankerous dipstick sometimes. :( If I had a more functional turn of mind, I would probably see your point entirely. Sorry, Alan, I’m a cantankerous dipstick sometimes. :(

If I had a more functional turn of mind, I would probably see your point entirely.

]]> By: Tim http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/10/16/eaglefiler-tag-smart-open-format-pim/#comment-28530 Tim Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:06:27 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/10/16/eaglefiler-tag-smart-open-format-pim/#comment-28530 Hmmm.... I think that there is a significant difference between a searchable comment and a tag, enough to make them different things. But semantic slanging-matches are best avoided. Let's agree to disagree :) Hmmm…. I think that there is a significant difference between a searchable comment and a tag, enough to make them different things.

But semantic slanging-matches are best avoided. Let’s agree to disagree :)

]]> By: Alan Jacobs http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/10/16/eaglefiler-tag-smart-open-format-pim/#comment-28529 Alan Jacobs Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:53:51 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/10/16/eaglefiler-tag-smart-open-format-pim/#comment-28529 I totally agree that EagleFiler has a better, richer <em>implementation</em> of tagging. But my original point is correct: "It’s not quite true that Yojimbo doesn’t support tags."There's a big difference between having "unpolished" tagging and no tagging at all. No disrespect to EagleFiler, which looks cool. I totally agree that EagleFiler has a better, richer implementation of tagging. But my original point is correct: “It’s not quite true that Yojimbo doesn’t support tags.”There’s a big difference between having “unpolished” tagging and no tagging at all. No disrespect to EagleFiler, which looks cool.

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