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	<title>Comments on: Dotting the &#8220;i&#8221; in iCal</title>
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	<description>Tips and add-ons to make Apple Mail / Mail.app even better</description>
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		<title>By: N.</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/10/12/dotting-the-i-in-ical/#comment-28963</link>
		<dc:creator>N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, since iCal was originally written by the Apple France group (IIRC), I give them a little slack on English grammar. And like you said, it's not really a bug as much as a niggle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, since iCal was originally written by the Apple France group (IIRC), I give them a little slack on English grammar. And like you said, it&#8217;s not really a bug as much as a niggle.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin White</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/10/12/dotting-the-i-in-ical/#comment-28921</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suffered this issue myself when I printed my wedding invitations. Not thinking about the number of guests most people will bring (one) I included the line "I'm bringing ___ people." I got a number of them back with the word "people" crossed out and "person" written in. 

I'm sure none of my invitees were offended at my improper grammar, but the issue certainly did burn my perfectionist britches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suffered this issue myself when I printed my wedding invitations. Not thinking about the number of guests most people will bring (one) I included the line &#8220;I&#8217;m bringing ___ people.&#8221; I got a number of them back with the word &#8220;people&#8221; crossed out and &#8220;person&#8221; written in. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure none of my invitees were offended at my improper grammar, but the issue certainly did burn my perfectionist britches.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthias Damm</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/10/12/dotting-the-i-in-ical/#comment-27637</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthias Damm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 09:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple's localization guys have worked around this in the  German version of Mail.app: There it says "Stunde(n)", i.e. "hour(s)".

But that's probably even a worse solution -- the wrong "hours" looks like "somebody missed this one", but "hour(s)" looks like "somebody was too lazy to do this right" ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple&#8217;s localization guys have worked around this in the  German version of Mail.app: There it says &#8220;Stunde(n)&#8221;, i.e. &#8220;hour(s)&#8221;.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s probably even a worse solution &#8212; the wrong &#8220;hours&#8221; looks like &#8220;somebody missed this one&#8221;, but &#8220;hour(s)&#8221; looks like &#8220;somebody was too lazy to do this right&#8221; &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed this..  'issue'  back with my first use of iCal 1.0.  

Frankly I'm not surprised that Apple hasn't fixed it.   While Apple may be big on polish - that typically means "appearance" and "visual" behaviours.   I.e. the text content of things isn't the first thing they notice.  It's the pretty graphics and buttons that they are looking at. 

And frankly I don't blame them.  I  saw this happen - and the reverse on occasion though I can't remember specifics or provide examples.   I saw it and said to myself "oh.. look at that" and promptly forgot about it.  I mean.. who cares.  

We are all smart enough to know what it means and while sure,  it may be just laziness in not coding around it, it's also only an issue for 1 possible choice for each of the categories of times - minutes, hours, days, before and after. 

In fact, statistically, it is probably even less common in the 'minutes' category.  1 minutes doesn't give you a lot of time to get ready for something.   In the same way it's probably not important that you can't put in "100000" hours before something as an alarm.  (If you do it converts it to "32767" )  It looks like the Max is 99999.   However I'm sure the case doesn't come up very often.  So why fix it.

Really, I'm not sure it is worth the amount of extra code it would take to fix it - I'm a fan of "small" programs and while I don't expect something like iCal to be tiny - every little bit smaller it can be is that much faster that it can run. 

I think the greater challenge for date related applications is getting the "st", "nd"
, "rd", and various "th" extensions right for dates - though the easiest way around that is to not use date formats that use it.   While I can look past it as well - I find it much more annoying to read "Tuesday October 3th" than "1 hours before"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed this..  &#8216;issue&#8217;  back with my first use of iCal 1.0.  </p>
<p>Frankly I&#8217;m not surprised that Apple hasn&#8217;t fixed it.   While Apple may be big on polish - that typically means &#8220;appearance&#8221; and &#8220;visual&#8221; behaviours.   I.e. the text content of things isn&#8217;t the first thing they notice.  It&#8217;s the pretty graphics and buttons that they are looking at. </p>
<p>And frankly I don&#8217;t blame them.  I  saw this happen - and the reverse on occasion though I can&#8217;t remember specifics or provide examples.   I saw it and said to myself &#8220;oh.. look at that&#8221; and promptly forgot about it.  I mean.. who cares.  </p>
<p>We are all smart enough to know what it means and while sure,  it may be just laziness in not coding around it, it&#8217;s also only an issue for 1 possible choice for each of the categories of times - minutes, hours, days, before and after. </p>
<p>In fact, statistically, it is probably even less common in the &#8216;minutes&#8217; category.  1 minutes doesn&#8217;t give you a lot of time to get ready for something.   In the same way it&#8217;s probably not important that you can&#8217;t put in &#8220;100000&#8243; hours before something as an alarm.  (If you do it converts it to &#8220;32767&#8243; )  It looks like the Max is 99999.   However I&#8217;m sure the case doesn&#8217;t come up very often.  So why fix it.</p>
<p>Really, I&#8217;m not sure it is worth the amount of extra code it would take to fix it - I&#8217;m a fan of &#8220;small&#8221; programs and while I don&#8217;t expect something like iCal to be tiny - every little bit smaller it can be is that much faster that it can run. </p>
<p>I think the greater challenge for date related applications is getting the &#8220;st&#8221;, &#8220;nd&#8221;<br />
, &#8220;rd&#8221;, and various &#8220;th&#8221; extensions right for dates - though the easiest way around that is to not use date formats that use it.   While I can look past it as well - I find it much more annoying to read &#8220;Tuesday October 3th&#8221; than &#8220;1 hours before&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 12:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's ironic, I noticed this when I started using iCal about 2 months ago... said to myself "ha, 1 hours - sounds like the way my 3-year-old talks" but I didn't think anything of it as it's a computer, it can't be all-knowing.

Good to see I am not the only one that sees little things that my wife referrs to as an "annoying quality" of mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s ironic, I noticed this when I started using iCal about 2 months ago&#8230; said to myself &#8220;ha, 1 hours - sounds like the way my 3-year-old talks&#8221; but I didn&#8217;t think anything of it as it&#8217;s a computer, it can&#8217;t be all-knowing.</p>
<p>Good to see I am not the only one that sees little things that my wife referrs to as an &#8220;annoying quality&#8221; of mine.</p>
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