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	<title>Comments on: Mail POP disaster: When it&#8217;s gone, it&#8217;s gone</title>
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	<description>Tips and add-ons to make Apple Mail / Mail.app even better</description>
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		<title>By: Austin</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/08/24/mailapp-pop-disaster-when-its-gone-its-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-115225</link>
		<dc:creator>Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 04:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I correct in that Gmail only allows POP access to its mail? Is the more secure solution of IMAP even possible with Gmail to Mail.app?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I correct in that Gmail only allows POP access to its mail? Is the more secure solution of IMAP even possible with Gmail to Mail.app?</p>
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		<title>By: Hawk Wings &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Big Wraps for IMAP (and tuffmail)</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/08/24/mailapp-pop-disaster-when-its-gone-its-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-29606</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawk Wings &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Big Wraps for IMAP (and tuffmail)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For example, deleting the settings for a POP account in Mail can delete all the messages stored in that account&#8217;s local folders. When they are gone, they are really gone. With IMAP, I know that can never happen. I just download them again into Mail.app&#8217;s local cache. That&#8217;s saved my bacon a few times. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For example, deleting the settings for a POP account in Mail can delete all the messages stored in that account&#8217;s local folders. When they are gone, they are really gone. With IMAP, I know that can never happen. I just download them again into Mail.app&#8217;s local cache. That&#8217;s saved my bacon a few times. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hawk Wings &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Switching a .Mac account from POP to IMAP</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/08/24/mailapp-pop-disaster-when-its-gone-its-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-26740</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawk Wings &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Switching a .Mac account from POP to IMAP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 15:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Allan Sampson&#8217;s procedure (the second reply) seems simplest. Following the steps set out there will make sure that no emails are lost or accidently deleted by Mail.app&#8217;s unpleasant POP account ambush. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Allan Sampson&#8217;s procedure (the second reply) seems simplest. Following the steps set out there will make sure that no emails are lost or accidently deleted by Mail.app&#8217;s unpleasant POP account ambush. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: arlene</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/08/24/mailapp-pop-disaster-when-its-gone-its-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-21460</link>
		<dc:creator>arlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have recently lost my secondary Mail account, too - except the .Mac account in my Mail program. It happens frequently. It seems I get a message that I have a &quot;new&quot; version of Mail (which when I check later I don&#039;t) which deletes everything except the .Mac account.

I have recorded the info for the other account so I can reenter it. 

As to lost messages, if you look in the folders users/library/mail and you will find .mbox&#039;s which you can reimport - that is if you file your messages into seperate boxes from the account as someone stated earlier.

My problem is why does Mail do this? Is there a fix? A way to stop the update that&#039;s not an update? At least I don&#039;t &quot;freak out&quot; now since I realize I can get my mail back but it&#039;s irritating and takes time.

thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have recently lost my secondary Mail account, too &#8211; except the .Mac account in my Mail program. It happens frequently. It seems I get a message that I have a &#8220;new&#8221; version of Mail (which when I check later I don&#8217;t) which deletes everything except the .Mac account.</p>
<p>I have recorded the info for the other account so I can reenter it. </p>
<p>As to lost messages, if you look in the folders users/library/mail and you will find .mbox&#8217;s which you can reimport &#8211; that is if you file your messages into seperate boxes from the account as someone stated earlier.</p>
<p>My problem is why does Mail do this? Is there a fix? A way to stop the update that&#8217;s not an update? At least I don&#8217;t &#8220;freak out&#8221; now since I realize I can get my mail back but it&#8217;s irritating and takes time.</p>
<p>thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: smith</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/08/24/mailapp-pop-disaster-when-its-gone-its-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-13918</link>
		<dc:creator>smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 05:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try reinstating the account in Mail exactly as it was.... In some iteration of Mail.... I recall this seemed to magically bring everything back as though it had never been erased...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try reinstating the account in Mail exactly as it was&#8230;. In some iteration of Mail&#8230;. I recall this seemed to magically bring everything back as though it had never been erased&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/08/24/mailapp-pop-disaster-when-its-gone-its-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-13787</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve done the same thing. I was trying to stop my then current employer from using one pop account accross a half dozen users and computers. It was a nightmare and then it got really bad because--sure enough--some emails were only on some computers and not the one that I had picked to hang onto that stupid, stupid account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve done the same thing. I was trying to stop my then current employer from using one pop account accross a half dozen users and computers. It was a nightmare and then it got really bad because&#8211;sure enough&#8211;some emails were only on some computers and not the one that I had picked to hang onto that stupid, stupid account.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean MacDonald</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/08/24/mailapp-pop-disaster-when-its-gone-its-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-13768</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean MacDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, I lost everything, even messages that were in separate folders I created &quot;On My Mac&quot;, as I recall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I lost everything, even messages that were in separate folders I created &#8220;On My Mac&#8221;, as I recall.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/08/24/mailapp-pop-disaster-when-its-gone-its-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-13767</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The screen shot looks like it was a Google Gmail account you were using POP3 with. IF you choose the option to save the mail on Google&#039;s servers on the preference page, all your mail is still there. Log into the web nterface and see all your mail. I choose to let Google keep a copy of my mail in my inbox, which I have to clean out every so often, but I don&#039;t loose mail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The screen shot looks like it was a Google Gmail account you were using POP3 with. IF you choose the option to save the mail on Google&#8217;s servers on the preference page, all your mail is still there. Log into the web nterface and see all your mail. I choose to let Google keep a copy of my mail in my inbox, which I have to clean out every so often, but I don&#8217;t loose mail.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave M.</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/08/24/mailapp-pop-disaster-when-its-gone-its-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-13761</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I move all mail that is important to me out of the folder that is associated with the email account and put it them in folders I have created outside of the account folders. 

I can&#039;t say for certain that the messages won&#039;t get deleted, since I haven&#039;t removed accounts yet, but my assumption is that they won&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I move all mail that is important to me out of the folder that is associated with the email account and put it them in folders I have created outside of the account folders. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t say for certain that the messages won&#8217;t get deleted, since I haven&#8217;t removed accounts yet, but my assumption is that they won&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean MacDonald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean MacDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch, that brings back memories of pain--but also of deep inner peace. My out-of-control InBox was zapped and there was nothing I could do about it. I emailed all my clients, asked them if there was anything important that they were waiting on, and went on from there. 

Still, it&#039;s not a method I would recommend. Since then, I learned about GTD. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch, that brings back memories of pain&#8211;but also of deep inner peace. My out-of-control InBox was zapped and there was nothing I could do about it. I emailed all my clients, asked them if there was anything important that they were waiting on, and went on from there. </p>
<p>Still, it&#8217;s not a method I would recommend. Since then, I learned about GTD. :-)</p>
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