Comments on: The Table View Selection bug: What it is and how to fix it

By: Tony Meyer

Tony Meyer — Fri, 04 Aug 2006 23:43:48 +0000

FWIW, Gruber has a much more extensive piece up about this now.

By: Tony Meyer

Tony Meyer — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 06:03:25 +0000

The first person I’ve heard of, too.

Greg (assuming you don’t mind sharing): had you used keyboard control of textboxes much before OS X? I’m wondering if maybe this makes more sense if it’s the only behaviour you’re used to – perhaps the main reason it’s so odd to the rest of us is that we’re used to how everything outside of OS X (earlier Mac OS/System, Windows, etc) behaves.

By: Robert C

Robert C — Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:51:26 +0000

Greg, you’re the first person I’ve heard of who actually prefers this way of handling selection to be the default action for shift-arrow selection. To me, it feels totally useless and very counterintuitive. Nevyn’s input manager, while great, is slightly wonky.

The better hope is that Apple will change this behavior, which honestly 99% of its customers must find irritating (or, if it’s the first time a user has experienced the behavior, seems simply unexpected and unhelpful).

Thanks for finding the (partial) solution, Hawk Wings! (and Nevyn!)

By: Greg

Greg — Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:15:03 +0000

actually i have always liked this feature of mail – it makes sense to me… ah well, can’t please everyone.

By: Tim

Tim — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 00:32:28 +0000

That’s interesting. I didn’t know that about the Windows version. I wonder if it was a deliberate addition or a sign of careless or low level porting.

By: Tony Meyer

Tony Meyer — Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:03:28 +0000

The problem is that some nut at Apple (Jobs himself?) thinks that this is the right behaviour! The real proof, IMO, is that if you do this in the Windows version of iTunes, you get the same stupid behaviour. This certainly doesn’t come from any Windows control, so it must have been a deliberate addition (unless the iTunes port is at a really low level, I guess).