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	<title>Comments on: Innovative email client design: Thinking outside the Outlook box</title>
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	<description>Tips and add-ons to make Apple Mail / Mail.app even better</description>
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		<title>By: sjk</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/07/10/innovative-email-client-design-thinking-outside-the-outlook-box/comment-page-1/#comment-9145</link>
		<dc:creator>sjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 16:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I&#039;m disagreeing with how &quot;spam problem&quot; is defined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I&#8217;m disagreeing with how &#8220;spam problem&#8221; is defined.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Flowers</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/07/10/innovative-email-client-design-thinking-outside-the-outlook-box/comment-page-1/#comment-9137</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Flowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In regards to threading, Mail.app seems limited to two options: turning it on and off, and collapsing/expanding threads. Is there a way in Mail.app to reorder emails in a thread, or specially add and delete emails to a particular thread? 

Actually, does any current Mac or Unix email client you know of allow this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to threading, Mail.app seems limited to two options: turning it on and off, and collapsing/expanding threads. Is there a way in Mail.app to reorder emails in a thread, or specially add and delete emails to a particular thread? </p>
<p>Actually, does any current Mac or Unix email client you know of allow this?</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Meyer</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/07/10/innovative-email-client-design-thinking-outside-the-outlook-box/comment-page-1/#comment-9120</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re saying that if technology is useful for processing non-junk email it is by definition unsatisfactory for solving the spam problem?  That&#039;s a pretty limited point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re saying that if technology is useful for processing non-junk email it is by definition unsatisfactory for solving the spam problem?  That&#8217;s a pretty limited point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: sjk</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/07/10/innovative-email-client-design-thinking-outside-the-outlook-box/comment-page-1/#comment-9116</link>
		<dc:creator>sjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 07:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The hope of many in the anti-spam community is that once the spam problem is solved enough to make spending more time on it inefficient, the same technology can be used to process non-junk email.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I&#039;m not satisfiedÂ with a limited definition of the spam problemÂ that believes itÂ will be &quot;solved enough&quot; by anti-spam technology like you&#039;re referring to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The hope of many in the anti-spam community is that once the spam problem is solved enough to make spending more time on it inefficient, the same technology can be used to process non-junk email.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not satisfiedÂ with a limited definition of the spam problemÂ that believes itÂ will be &#8220;solved enough&#8221; by anti-spam technology like you&#8217;re referring to.</p>
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		<title>By: ClearContext Corporate Weblog</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/07/10/innovative-email-client-design-thinking-outside-the-outlook-box/comment-page-1/#comment-9113</link>
		<dc:creator>ClearContext Corporate Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 07:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;How Researchers are Reinventing the Mail Client...&lt;/strong&gt;

Gabor Cselle has posted an overview of several different approaches researchers have taken to re-designing email, breaking it down into three categories: task driven email, smart email organization structures, and cool features. It&#039;s always interestin...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>How Researchers are Reinventing the Mail Client&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Gabor Cselle has posted an overview of several different approaches researchers have taken to re-designing email, breaking it down into three categories: task driven email, smart email organization structures, and cool features. It&#8217;s always interestin&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Meyer</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/07/10/innovative-email-client-design-thinking-outside-the-outlook-box/comment-page-1/#comment-9110</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 05:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hope of many in the anti-spam community is that once the spam problem is solved enough to make spending more time on it inefficient, the same technology can be used to process non-junk email.

POPfile [http://popfile.sf.net], for example, can filter spam, but the real value is that it can filter mail into user-defined categories.  Even better than this would be a filter that doesn&#039;t need the user to define categories (auto-categorisation is done in plenty of statistical work), and that tagged rather than filtered.  This is only the start of what can be done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hope of many in the anti-spam community is that once the spam problem is solved enough to make spending more time on it inefficient, the same technology can be used to process non-junk email.</p>
<p>POPfile [http://popfile.sf.net], for example, can filter spam, but the real value is that it can filter mail into user-defined categories.  Even better than this would be a filter that doesn&#8217;t need the user to define categories (auto-categorisation is done in plenty of statistical work), and that tagged rather than filtered.  This is only the start of what can be done.</p>
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		<title>By: denny</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/07/10/innovative-email-client-design-thinking-outside-the-outlook-box/comment-page-1/#comment-9072</link>
		<dc:creator>denny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 17:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very interesting... but it makes my head hurt! i like the green to read task/deadline tracker. but thinking about mail as a component of tasks, while it makes sense, it&#039;s a turn around. something i&#039;ve been doing lately which is similar to this utilizes the already existing power of tiger.

my project manager is spotlight. i keep a spotlight search open at all times. every project gets a keyword combo the day i start it. every single file, email, ical task, contact (via the notes field) gets this keyword... examples of current projects: valeriejune, truestorypictures, dandee. if i type in any of those into my already open spotlight window (project manager window as i&#039;ve come to think of it) i get all associated emails, contacts, ical events/todos, files, folders... all of it. in a second. so sweet.

the only down side of this is one little ical/spotlight bug. all ical events/todos, in the spotlight window, show up with &quot;No Date&quot; as their date. Ideally I want to be able to filter my find with today, yesterday, this week, etc. and not loose my ical objects. as it is now i have to show all dates because as soon as i filter for a date the &quot;No Date&quot; status of ical objects makes them disappear. 

in any case, spotlight as project manager, is quite powerful assuming you consistently tag. i&#039;ve found that now that it is my workflow the tagging is easy and immediate thanks to mailtags and quicksilver&#039;s &quot;set comment&quot; function for files.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very interesting&#8230; but it makes my head hurt! i like the green to read task/deadline tracker. but thinking about mail as a component of tasks, while it makes sense, it&#8217;s a turn around. something i&#8217;ve been doing lately which is similar to this utilizes the already existing power of tiger.</p>
<p>my project manager is spotlight. i keep a spotlight search open at all times. every project gets a keyword combo the day i start it. every single file, email, ical task, contact (via the notes field) gets this keyword&#8230; examples of current projects: valeriejune, truestorypictures, dandee. if i type in any of those into my already open spotlight window (project manager window as i&#8217;ve come to think of it) i get all associated emails, contacts, ical events/todos, files, folders&#8230; all of it. in a second. so sweet.</p>
<p>the only down side of this is one little ical/spotlight bug. all ical events/todos, in the spotlight window, show up with &#8220;No Date&#8221; as their date. Ideally I want to be able to filter my find with today, yesterday, this week, etc. and not loose my ical objects. as it is now i have to show all dates because as soon as i filter for a date the &#8220;No Date&#8221; status of ical objects makes them disappear. </p>
<p>in any case, spotlight as project manager, is quite powerful assuming you consistently tag. i&#8217;ve found that now that it is my workflow the tagging is easy and immediate thanks to mailtags and quicksilver&#8217;s &#8220;set comment&#8221; function for files.</p>
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		<title>By: Marten</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/07/10/innovative-email-client-design-thinking-outside-the-outlook-box/comment-page-1/#comment-9069</link>
		<dc:creator>Marten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 15:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GNUMail does those threading arcs:

http://www.collaboration-world.com/gnumail.data/screenshots/v1.2.0pre1/gnumail-osx.png</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GNUMail does those threading arcs:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.collaboration-world.com/gnumail.data/screenshots/v1.2.0pre1/gnumail-osx.png" rel="nofollow">http://www.collaboration-world.com/gnumail.data/screenshots/v1.2.0pre1/gnumail-osx.png</a></p>
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