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	<title>Comments on: More post-10.4.7 Mail pains</title>
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		<title>By: L Larson</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/30/more-post-1047-mail-pains/comment-page-1/#comment-125810</link>
		<dc:creator>L Larson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 13:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may be wrong but it&#039;s my observation that it is not just URLs but also any lines of plaintext messages that are broken by Apple Mail when a message is sent. Messages that get forwarded a few times end up looking butchered.  By broken, I mean a carriage return/line feed is inserted. If I want messages to go out with Mac-style plaintext (no CRLF until end of paragraph), can I do it?  Does anyone know how to control a setting or hidden default in Apple Mail that turns line breaking on/off?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may be wrong but it&#8217;s my observation that it is not just URLs but also any lines of plaintext messages that are broken by Apple Mail when a message is sent. Messages that get forwarded a few times end up looking butchered.  By broken, I mean a carriage return/line feed is inserted. If I want messages to go out with Mac-style plaintext (no CRLF until end of paragraph), can I do it?  Does anyone know how to control a setting or hidden default in Apple Mail that turns line breaking on/off?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel WECK</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel WECK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 07:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update: I have started using the HTML-link-workaround, for work and for personal emails. TinyURL just does not feel right to me, a bit like wanting to obfuscate the destination URL...

I&#039;m gutted really, as I am in favor of plain-text and myself hate receiving colored emails with weird fonts...(which happens a lot when people use HTML)

I have no idea how my email look on the receiver side yet. I hope Mail.app does not add to much crap in my email mime-parts when I switch to HTML mode.

Dan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update: I have started using the HTML-link-workaround, for work and for personal emails. TinyURL just does not feel right to me, a bit like wanting to obfuscate the destination URL&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m gutted really, as I am in favor of plain-text and myself hate receiving colored emails with weird fonts&#8230;(which happens a lot when people use HTML)</p>
<p>I have no idea how my email look on the receiver side yet. I hope Mail.app does not add to much crap in my email mime-parts when I switch to HTML mode.</p>
<p>Dan.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Warne</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/30/more-post-1047-mail-pains/comment-page-1/#comment-8744</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Warne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 05:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple can be a bit too quick to adopt new standards sometimes. See, in the tech industry, something may be a standard, but unless there&#039;s some likelihood of the industry adopting it there&#039;s not much point going it alone. It&#039;s like the ExpressCard slots in MacBook Pros... not the slightest bit useful yet and probably won&#039;t be ever, given the prevalence of cheap USB2 devices. 

Adopting an obscure RFI standard for URLs really isn&#039;t cool, unless there&#039;s some momentum behind it with other mail application developers, which it doesn&#039;t appear that there is. 

In the meantime, Apple Mail users have to put up with complaints from receivers of their email... Apple really should change their stance on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple can be a bit too quick to adopt new standards sometimes. See, in the tech industry, something may be a standard, but unless there&#8217;s some likelihood of the industry adopting it there&#8217;s not much point going it alone. It&#8217;s like the ExpressCard slots in MacBook Pros&#8230; not the slightest bit useful yet and probably won&#8217;t be ever, given the prevalence of cheap USB2 devices. </p>
<p>Adopting an obscure RFI standard for URLs really isn&#8217;t cool, unless there&#8217;s some momentum behind it with other mail application developers, which it doesn&#8217;t appear that there is. </p>
<p>In the meantime, Apple Mail users have to put up with complaints from receivers of their email&#8230; Apple really should change their stance on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/30/more-post-1047-mail-pains/comment-page-1/#comment-8455</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 22:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Daniel. Thanks for your kind comments elsewhere. Just to clarifiy --- every Mail.app user has this &quot;Broken URL&quot; &lt;strike&gt;bug&lt;/strike&gt; feature. It&#039;s built-in to the way Mail handles text. 

Feels good to be so innovative, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Daniel. Thanks for your kind comments elsewhere. Just to clarifiy &#8212; every Mail.app user has this &#8220;Broken URL&#8221; <strike>bug</strike> feature. It&#8217;s built-in to the way Mail handles text. </p>
<p>Feels good to be so innovative, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel WECK</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/30/more-post-1047-mail-pains/comment-page-1/#comment-8440</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel WECK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 16:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am affected by the URL-split bug, which is very annoying for the receivers, as they have to re-compose the URL manually and copy/paste !!!
I am reading your workaround tips now ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am affected by the URL-split bug, which is very annoying for the receivers, as they have to re-compose the URL manually and copy/paste !!!<br />
I am reading your workaround tips now ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Don Parr</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/30/more-post-1047-mail-pains/comment-page-1/#comment-8229</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Parr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel bad for all those experiencing negative issues with the 10.4.7 upgrade :(. I started with 10.4.2 on my 14-inch iBook G4 last September (&#039;05). 10.4.7 is my 5th upgrade and all but one, including 10.4.7, went as smooth as silk, and yes, I&#039;m speaking for myself and &quot;Genie,&quot; my iBook. The one that didn&#039;t wasn&#039;t OS X really, it was a single application the author, or developer, had to tweak in order for it to play nice with the upgrade, which was done rather swiftly I might add :). I&#039;m hoping with time, all those with less than optimal experiences will find the fixes necessary to make all well with the World, 10.4.7 and OS X once again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel bad for all those experiencing negative issues with the 10.4.7 upgrade :(. I started with 10.4.2 on my 14-inch iBook G4 last September (&#8217;05). 10.4.7 is my 5th upgrade and all but one, including 10.4.7, went as smooth as silk, and yes, I&#8217;m speaking for myself and &#8220;Genie,&#8221; my iBook. The one that didn&#8217;t wasn&#8217;t OS X really, it was a single application the author, or developer, had to tweak in order for it to play nice with the upgrade, which was done rather swiftly I might add :). I&#8217;m hoping with time, all those with less than optimal experiences will find the fixes necessary to make all well with the World, 10.4.7 and OS X once again.</p>
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