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	<title>Comments on: More post-10.4.7 Mail pains</title>
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	<description>Tips and add-ons to make Apple Mail / Mail.app even better</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: L Larson</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/30/more-post-1047-mail-pains/#comment-125810</link>
		<dc:creator>L Larson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 13:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may be wrong but it's my observation that it is not just URLs but also any lines of plaintext messages that are broken by Apple Mail when a message is sent. Messages that get forwarded a few times end up looking butchered.  By broken, I mean a carriage return/line feed is inserted. If I want messages to go out with Mac-style plaintext (no CRLF until end of paragraph), can I do it?  Does anyone know how to control a setting or hidden default in Apple Mail that turns line breaking on/off?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may be wrong but it&#8217;s my observation that it is not just URLs but also any lines of plaintext messages that are broken by Apple Mail when a message is sent. Messages that get forwarded a few times end up looking butchered.  By broken, I mean a carriage return/line feed is inserted. If I want messages to go out with Mac-style plaintext (no CRLF until end of paragraph), can I do it?  Does anyone know how to control a setting or hidden default in Apple Mail that turns line breaking on/off?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel WECK</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/30/more-post-1047-mail-pains/#comment-8750</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel WECK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 07:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update: I have started using the HTML-link-workaround, for work and for personal emails. TinyURL just does not feel right to me, a bit like wanting to obfuscate the destination URL...

I'm gutted really, as I am in favor of plain-text and myself hate receiving colored emails with weird fonts...(which happens a lot when people use HTML)

I have no idea how my email look on the receiver side yet. I hope Mail.app does not add to much crap in my email mime-parts when I switch to HTML mode.

Dan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update: I have started using the HTML-link-workaround, for work and for personal emails. TinyURL just does not feel right to me, a bit like wanting to obfuscate the destination URL&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m gutted really, as I am in favor of plain-text and myself hate receiving colored emails with weird fonts&#8230;(which happens a lot when people use HTML)</p>
<p>I have no idea how my email look on the receiver side yet. I hope Mail.app does not add to much crap in my email mime-parts when I switch to HTML mode.</p>
<p>Dan.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Warne</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/30/more-post-1047-mail-pains/#comment-8744</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Warne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 05:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple can be a bit too quick to adopt new standards sometimes. See, in the tech industry, something may be a standard, but unless there's some likelihood of the industry adopting it there's not much point going it alone. It's like the ExpressCard slots in MacBook Pros... not the slightest bit useful yet and probably won't be ever, given the prevalence of cheap USB2 devices. 

Adopting an obscure RFI standard for URLs really isn't cool, unless there's some momentum behind it with other mail application developers, which it doesn't appear that there is. 

In the meantime, Apple Mail users have to put up with complaints from receivers of their email... Apple really should change their stance on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple can be a bit too quick to adopt new standards sometimes. See, in the tech industry, something may be a standard, but unless there&#8217;s some likelihood of the industry adopting it there&#8217;s not much point going it alone. It&#8217;s like the ExpressCard slots in MacBook Pros&#8230; not the slightest bit useful yet and probably won&#8217;t be ever, given the prevalence of cheap USB2 devices. </p>
<p>Adopting an obscure RFI standard for URLs really isn&#8217;t cool, unless there&#8217;s some momentum behind it with other mail application developers, which it doesn&#8217;t appear that there is. </p>
<p>In the meantime, Apple Mail users have to put up with complaints from receivers of their email&#8230; Apple really should change their stance on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/30/more-post-1047-mail-pains/#comment-8455</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 22:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Daniel. Thanks for your kind comments elsewhere. Just to clarifiy --- every Mail.app user has this "Broken URL" &lt;strike&gt;bug&lt;/strike&gt; feature. It's built-in to the way Mail handles text. 

Feels good to be so innovative, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Daniel. Thanks for your kind comments elsewhere. Just to clarifiy &#8212; every Mail.app user has this &#8220;Broken URL&#8221; <strike>bug</strike> feature. It&#8217;s built-in to the way Mail handles text. </p>
<p>Feels good to be so innovative, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel WECK</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/30/more-post-1047-mail-pains/#comment-8440</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel WECK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 16:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am affected by the URL-split bug, which is very annoying for the receivers, as they have to re-compose the URL manually and copy/paste !!!
I am reading your workaround tips now ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am affected by the URL-split bug, which is very annoying for the receivers, as they have to re-compose the URL manually and copy/paste !!!<br />
I am reading your workaround tips now ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Don Parr</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/30/more-post-1047-mail-pains/#comment-8229</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Parr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel bad for all those experiencing negative issues with the 10.4.7 upgrade :(. I started with 10.4.2 on my 14-inch iBook G4 last September ('05). 10.4.7 is my 5th upgrade and all but one, including 10.4.7, went as smooth as silk, and yes, I'm speaking for myself and "Genie," my iBook. The one that didn't wasn't OS X really, it was a single application the author, or developer, had to tweak in order for it to play nice with the upgrade, which was done rather swiftly I might add :). I'm hoping with time, all those with less than optimal experiences will find the fixes necessary to make all well with the World, 10.4.7 and OS X once again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel bad for all those experiencing negative issues with the 10.4.7 upgrade :(. I started with 10.4.2 on my 14-inch iBook G4 last September (&#8217;05). 10.4.7 is my 5th upgrade and all but one, including 10.4.7, went as smooth as silk, and yes, I&#8217;m speaking for myself and &#8220;Genie,&#8221; my iBook. The one that didn&#8217;t wasn&#8217;t OS X really, it was a single application the author, or developer, had to tweak in order for it to play nice with the upgrade, which was done rather swiftly I might add :). I&#8217;m hoping with time, all those with less than optimal experiences will find the fixes necessary to make all well with the World, 10.4.7 and OS X once again.</p>
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