Comments on: Event Maker 0.4: iCal events from Mail.app http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/23/event-maker-04-ical-events-from-mailapp/ Tips and add-ons to make Apple Mail / Mail.app even better Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:34:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Mike Abdullah http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/23/event-maker-04-ical-events-from-mailapp/#comment-8106 Mike Abdullah Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:08:48 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/23/event-maker-04-ical-events-from-mailapp/#comment-8106 Hi guys, I have been continuing work on my solution and I can fairly safely say: 1. It's viable 2. It definitely works just fine with IMAP 3. It can handle you moving messages around Hopefully I'll have it out in about a week. Scott, if you're interested in using the solution with MailTags at some point once I've finished it, I'll be happy to open source the code. Hi guys, I have been continuing work on my solution and I can fairly safely say:

1. It’s viable
2. It definitely works just fine with IMAP
3. It can handle you moving messages around

Hopefully I’ll have it out in about a week. Scott, if you’re interested in using the solution with MailTags at some point once I’ve finished it, I’ll be happy to open source the code.

]]> By: Scott Morrison http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/23/event-maker-04-ical-events-from-mailapp/#comment-7792 Scott Morrison Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:32:27 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/23/event-maker-04-ical-events-from-mailapp/#comment-7792 Gibbon You are right about the URLs being static and that if you move a message, the Url linkback is effectively broken. However, MailTags, because of its deep integration into Mail can deal with this by keeping a link to the ical item associated with the message. When you move a message, MailTags will go back to iCal (by its uid) and update the URL to point to the new location. I am going to include event linking in a future version. Right now I am working on getting 1.2.2 out (hopefully in less than 2 weeks) that will fix some stability problems and add some new small features that I have been working with. I am also working hard on MT 2.0 which will deal with IMAP and add a whole slew of nice new things. :) Gibbon

You are right about the URLs being static and that if you move a message, the Url linkback is effectively broken. However, MailTags, because of its deep integration into Mail can deal with this by keeping a link to the ical item associated with the message. When you move a message, MailTags will go back to iCal (by its uid) and update the URL to point to the new location.

I am going to include event linking in a future version. Right now I am working on getting 1.2.2 out (hopefully in less than 2 weeks) that will fix some stability problems and add some new small features that I have been working with. I am also working hard on MT 2.0 which will deal with IMAP and add a whole slew of nice new things. :)

]]> By: Tim http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/23/event-maker-04-ical-events-from-mailapp/#comment-7788 Tim Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:40:43 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/23/event-maker-04-ical-events-from-mailapp/#comment-7788 Mike, I'm looking forward very much to your URL solution. That would be fantastic. Mike, I’m looking forward very much to your URL solution. That would be fantastic.

]]> By: Uno http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/23/event-maker-04-ical-events-from-mailapp/#comment-7781 Uno Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:56:37 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/23/event-maker-04-ical-events-from-mailapp/#comment-7781 Event Maker sounds neat - I'm gonna try it out. Great job, Mike. This e-mail linking stuff would be impossible for us IMAP users, or am I way off base? Great site, by the way — I only just discovered it. I got a lot of catching up to do, obviously. Good thing it's the holiday season, and things are pretty slow at work.. Event Maker sounds neat - I’m gonna try it out. Great job, Mike. This e-mail linking stuff would be impossible for us IMAP users, or am I way off base?

Great site, by the way — I only just discovered it. I got a lot of catching up to do, obviously. Good thing it’s the holiday season, and things are pretty slow at work..

]]> By: Gibbons Burke http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/23/event-maker-04-ical-events-from-mailapp/#comment-7745 Gibbons Burke Sun, 25 Jun 2006 14:15:58 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/23/event-maker-04-ical-events-from-mailapp/#comment-7745 Wow, Mike - thanks for being so responsive to your users. The only complicating thing I see about this feature would be the essential problem with file:// URLs - they point to the file at a static location. If the user later moves the email to another folder the URL link in the iCal item will no longer work. Unavoidable, I suppose, unless you implemented a much more complicated scheme involving URLs which point to old-style HFS+ aliases for the original mail files. Aliases maintain their links to the original files no matter where the original files are located. Wow, Mike - thanks for being so responsive to your users. The only complicating thing I see about this feature would be the essential problem with file:// URLs - they point to the file at a static location. If the user later moves the email to another folder the URL link in the iCal item will no longer work. Unavoidable, I suppose, unless you implemented a much more complicated scheme involving URLs which point to old-style HFS+ aliases for the original mail files. Aliases maintain their links to the original files no matter where the original files are located.

]]> By: Mike Abdullah http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/23/event-maker-04-ical-events-from-mailapp/#comment-7741 Mike Abdullah Sun, 25 Jun 2006 13:41:38 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/23/event-maker-04-ical-events-from-mailapp/#comment-7741 Thanks for the comments on the URL idea. It's something I've been wanting to achieve for a while, but couldn't see how. However, you've prompted me to go back and have a look at it and I think I now have a solution that might be better than the MailTags one. I've also updated the MacUpdate listing to the new version now, so you don't have to worry about downloading and then updating (although I do think the Software Update mechanism is pretty neat). Oh, and to the poster from a prior version of Event Maker. Yes, I know I have only listed the app on MacUpdate and not VersionTracker. I do intend to put it on VT, but only once I reach version 1.0 Thanks for the comments on the URL idea. It’s something I’ve been wanting to achieve for a while, but couldn’t see how. However, you’ve prompted me to go back and have a look at it and I think I now have a solution that might be better than the MailTags one.

I’ve also updated the MacUpdate listing to the new version now, so you don’t have to worry about downloading and then updating (although I do think the Software Update mechanism is pretty neat).

Oh, and to the poster from a prior version of Event Maker. Yes, I know I have only listed the app on MacUpdate and not VersionTracker. I do intend to put it on VT, but only once I reach version 1.0

]]> By: Gibbons Burke http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/23/event-maker-04-ical-events-from-mailapp/#comment-7494 Gibbons Burke Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:10:32 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/23/event-maker-04-ical-events-from-mailapp/#comment-7494 I had forgotten I knew that because I uninstalled MailTags a few weeks ago. I wasn't using it very much and had a hunch it was contributing to some instability I was seeing in Mail. Thanks for the reminder - indeed I probably got the idea from playing around with MailTags. I probably wouldn't re-install MailTags for the URL-adding feature for Todos, but I'm liking Mail Events and I think it makes sense for the feature to be included in that program. I had forgotten I knew that because I uninstalled MailTags a few weeks ago. I wasn’t using it very much and had a hunch it was contributing to some instability I was seeing in Mail. Thanks for the reminder - indeed I probably got the idea from playing around with MailTags.

I probably wouldn’t re-install MailTags for the URL-adding feature for Todos, but I’m liking Mail Events and I think it makes sense for the feature to be included in that program.

]]> By: Tim http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/23/event-maker-04-ical-events-from-mailapp/#comment-7491 Tim Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:55:54 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/23/event-maker-04-ical-events-from-mailapp/#comment-7491 MailTags does this already for ToDos (but you probably knew that). I agree that would be a neat feature. MailTags does this already for ToDos (but you probably knew that).

I agree that would be a neat feature.

]]> By: Gibbons Burke http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/23/event-maker-04-ical-events-from-mailapp/#comment-7490 Gibbons Burke Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:37:40 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/23/event-maker-04-ical-events-from-mailapp/#comment-7490 Nice utility - thanks for pointing it out. I think it would be a useful addition to Event Maker if a file:// URL for the original mail file could be added to the URL property in the newly-created event - that way you could click on that URL in the event inspector in iCal and it would open the actual email file in Mail for reference, or to make it easy to reply to the person who initiated the event when it is finally completed. Nice utility - thanks for pointing it out.

I think it would be a useful addition to Event Maker if a file:// URL for the original mail file could be added to the URL property in the newly-created event - that way you could click on that URL in the event inspector in iCal and it would open the actual email file in Mail for reference, or to make it easy to reply to the person who initiated the event when it is finally completed.

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