Comments on: kip: Tag-smart iPhoto for PDFs http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/18/kip-tag-smart-iphoto-for-pdfs/ Tips and add-ons to make Apple Mail / Mail.app even better Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:41:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Alex http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/18/kip-tag-smart-iphoto-for-pdfs/#comment-7118 Alex Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:04:59 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/18/kip-tag-smart-iphoto-for-pdfs/#comment-7118 That's cool app. I would like to use it for scientific paper categorisation. Export to other formats or XML interface to storage would be nice thing to have. That’s cool app. I would like to use it for scientific paper categorisation.
Export to other formats or XML interface to storage would be nice thing to have.

]]> By: Ted Leckie http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/18/kip-tag-smart-iphoto-for-pdfs/#comment-6948 Ted Leckie Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:07:29 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/18/kip-tag-smart-iphoto-for-pdfs/#comment-6948 Hi, one of the developers of kip here. Just thought I would mention in response to Bridget's comment about Spotlight that there's a nifty feature of kip: if you option-click on a tag in the kip cloud it will bring up a spotlight search for that tag. Also it is possible to drag any file from the finder onto a tag in the cloud and kip will assign that tag to the spotlight comments for the file thus making kip a more general file tagging program. Hi, one of the developers of kip here. Just thought I would mention in response to Bridget’s comment about Spotlight that there’s a nifty feature of kip: if you option-click on a tag in the kip cloud it will bring up a spotlight search for that tag. Also it is possible to drag any file from the finder onto a tag in the cloud and kip will assign that tag to the spotlight comments for the file thus making kip a more general file tagging program.

]]> By: Chris http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/18/kip-tag-smart-iphoto-for-pdfs/#comment-6931 Chris Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:14:10 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/18/kip-tag-smart-iphoto-for-pdfs/#comment-6931 This is a really nifty, potentially groundbreaking product. I really like the concept. Tag-based categorization is just so much more flexible than folders for organizing and retrieving a large amount of stored items. However, at the moment, I find their tag cloud a little weak. I'd prefer an iTunes-style tag browser, similar to how WebnoteHappy works, with the tag cloud as a visual alternative. The problem with the Kip cloud is it only shows the top 20-30 tags (that's all there's space for), so if you're trying to browse for something you think you put in the database, if you have more than 30 tags, you may either have to remember the tag you used (if it's not in the top 20-30, you can't see it from the cloud) or take a stab at doing a blind search. From there, you can refine using the cloud, but the initial lookup is not smooth. Also, Kip's tag inference system is a little weak at the moment. I put the manual for GnuCash into it, a 70 page document with multiple uses of the word "GnuCash" on every page, but it didn't extract that as a tag. It did, however, extract "Microsoft" as a tag, even though that word only appears 3 times in the whole manual. Maybe manually assigning tags is better anyway. Despite the little wrinkles, a phenominal program. This is a really nifty, potentially groundbreaking product. I really like the concept. Tag-based categorization is just so much more flexible than folders for organizing and retrieving a large amount of stored items.

However, at the moment, I find their tag cloud a little weak. I’d prefer an iTunes-style tag browser, similar to how WebnoteHappy works, with the tag cloud as a visual alternative. The problem with the Kip cloud is it only shows the top 20-30 tags (that’s all there’s space for), so if you’re trying to browse for something you think you put in the database, if you have more than 30 tags, you may either have to remember the tag you used (if it’s not in the top 20-30, you can’t see it from the cloud) or take a stab at doing a blind search. From there, you can refine using the cloud, but the initial lookup is not smooth.

Also, Kip’s tag inference system is a little weak at the moment. I put the manual for GnuCash into it, a 70 page document with multiple uses of the word “GnuCash” on every page, but it didn’t extract that as a tag. It did, however, extract “Microsoft” as a tag, even though that word only appears 3 times in the whole manual. Maybe manually assigning tags is better anyway.

Despite the little wrinkles, a phenominal program.

]]> By: Bridget Samuels http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/18/kip-tag-smart-iphoto-for-pdfs/#comment-6902 Bridget Samuels Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:25:40 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/18/kip-tag-smart-iphoto-for-pdfs/#comment-6902 Fantastic!! Thank you for writing about this app. I keep tons of PDFs of journal articles on my hard drive and have tried using an Excel spreadsheet to keep track of them, but I've been waiting for something like this to come along! Fantastic!! Thank you for writing about this app. I keep tons of PDFs of journal articles on my hard drive and have tried using an Excel spreadsheet to keep track of them, but I’ve been waiting for something like this to come along!

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