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	<title>Comments on: AppleInsider&#8217;s 10.4.7 Mail.app tease</title>
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	<description>Tips and add-ons to make Apple Mail / Mail.app even better</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sjk</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/05/18/appleinsiders-1047-mailapp-tease/#comment-43457</link>
		<dc:creator>sjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 22:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Currently, I have to create a complete dummy account just to send as these alternative addresses.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You can add additional comma-separated sender addresses in the Email Address field under the Account Information tab of any account in Mail's Accounts preferences.  It's explained in the "Adding multiple email alias addresses to an account" section of Mail help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Currently, I have to create a complete dummy account just to send as these alternative addresses.</p></blockquote>
<p>You can add additional comma-separated sender addresses in the Email Address field under the Account Information tab of any account in Mail&#8217;s Accounts preferences.  It&#8217;s explained in the &#8220;Adding multiple email alias addresses to an account&#8221; section of Mail help.</p>
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		<title>By: schmultzburger</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/05/18/appleinsiders-1047-mailapp-tease/#comment-43428</link>
		<dc:creator>schmultzburger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without https/webdav and the ability to unsubscribe to IMAP folders, connecting to an Exchange server via imap sucks because there are hundreds of public folders and all the other garbage folders that aren't really mail (tasks, contacts, notes, etc.) that get in the way.

Another thing that would be nice is some kind of profile setup.  Example:  most email comes to and is sent as dude@example.com, but some mail (esp. to lists) needs to be sent as dude@admin.example.com or dude@store.example.com.  Currently, I have to create a complete dummy account just to send as these alternative addresses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without https/webdav and the ability to unsubscribe to IMAP folders, connecting to an Exchange server via imap sucks because there are hundreds of public folders and all the other garbage folders that aren&#8217;t really mail (tasks, contacts, notes, etc.) that get in the way.</p>
<p>Another thing that would be nice is some kind of profile setup.  Example:  most email comes to and is sent as <a href="mailto:dude@example.com">dude@example.com</a>, but some mail (esp. to lists) needs to be sent as <a href="mailto:dude@admin.example.com">dude@admin.example.com</a> or <a href="mailto:dude@store.example.com">dude@store.example.com</a>.  Currently, I have to create a complete dummy account just to send as these alternative addresses.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Krantz</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/05/18/appleinsiders-1047-mailapp-tease/#comment-25748</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Krantz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 07:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second the wish for https/webdav functionality. If Mail.app could work directly with an Exchange server through https many users would be able to ditch Entourage. I think that many mac users in a business environment can't use IMAP/POP because of firewalls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second the wish for https/webdav functionality. If Mail.app could work directly with an Exchange server through https many users would be able to ditch Entourage. I think that many mac users in a business environment can&#8217;t use IMAP/POP because of firewalls.</p>
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		<title>By: sjk</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/05/18/appleinsiders-1047-mailapp-tease/#comment-5392</link>
		<dc:creator>sjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 06:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;A proper smart folder which can search on mail headers not shown in the default mail-view, eg matching mailing list headers.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yep, being able select arbitrary headers (e.g. List-ID) in Smart Mailbox matches would be very useful.  Unfortunately that's still only possible within rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A proper smart folder which can search on mail headers not shown in the default mail-view, eg matching mailing list headers.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yep, being able select arbitrary headers (e.g. List-ID) in Smart Mailbox matches would be very useful.  Unfortunately that&#8217;s still only possible within rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Torgeir</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/05/18/appleinsiders-1047-mailapp-tease/#comment-5378</link>
		<dc:creator>Torgeir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 23:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A proper smart folder which can search on mail headers not shown in the default mail-view, eg matching mailing list headers. And it would be nice to have a smart search folder that displays those messages that aren't matched by any smart folder search.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A proper smart folder which can search on mail headers not shown in the default mail-view, eg matching mailing list headers. And it would be nice to have a smart search folder that displays those messages that aren&#8217;t matched by any smart folder search.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnO</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/05/18/appleinsiders-1047-mailapp-tease/#comment-4623</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 03:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Option to delete mail from POP3 server when deleted locally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Option to delete mail from POP3 server when deleted locally.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Dobbs</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/05/18/appleinsiders-1047-mailapp-tease/#comment-4603</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Dobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 16:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make SmartMailboxes actually smart.  Spotlight offers boolean search criteria, please provide some way for me to use it in Mail.  The need to create SmartMailboxes which search for specific things in other SmartMailboxes is dumb.

Don't even feel like you have to create a UI for this.  Just give me a way to use 'defaults' from the command line to create smarter smart mailboxes and I'll be happy.  As it is, even the preference file is limited in the same way as the UI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make SmartMailboxes actually smart.  Spotlight offers boolean search criteria, please provide some way for me to use it in Mail.  The need to create SmartMailboxes which search for specific things in other SmartMailboxes is dumb.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t even feel like you have to create a UI for this.  Just give me a way to use &#8216;defaults&#8217; from the command line to create smarter smart mailboxes and I&#8217;ll be happy.  As it is, even the preference file is limited in the same way as the UI.</p>
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		<title>By: sjk</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/05/18/appleinsiders-1047-mailapp-tease/#comment-4581</link>
		<dc:creator>sjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 00:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fix the bugs first, especially ones that cause message lossage.  I want IMAP support that's as reliable as Mulberry's.  Save changes to IMAP mailboxes on the server sooner so they're not in an unsynchronized state if Mail crashes; toggling an IMAP account offline/online shouldn't be necessary as a workaround for that.

A few previously unmentioned requests:

â€¢ Ability to select a message from the keyboard without displaying it in the preview pane and without marking it as read.  Example usage: select and Junk false negative spam messages without displaying them.

â€¢ Option-click the address field of a message in the message list to do the equivalent of a search for that address in the currently selected mailbox(es).

â€¢ Allow any sender address to use any SMTP (outgoing) account instead of being unnecessarily associated with a specific IMAP/POP3 (incoming) account.

â€¢ Support IMAP server-side threading capabilities.

Btw, I agree with Tony that IMAP is an icky protocol.  Hard to think of a better reason why so many client implements are lacking (in capability and reliability); servers aren't quite as bad.  Too often it's not obvious what works and doesn't with different client/server combinations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fix the bugs first, especially ones that cause message lossage.  I want IMAP support that&#8217;s as reliable as Mulberry&#8217;s.  Save changes to IMAP mailboxes on the server sooner so they&#8217;re not in an unsynchronized state if Mail crashes; toggling an IMAP account offline/online shouldn&#8217;t be necessary as a workaround for that.</p>
<p>A few previously unmentioned requests:</p>
<p>â€¢ Ability to select a message from the keyboard without displaying it in the preview pane and without marking it as read.  Example usage: select and Junk false negative spam messages without displaying them.</p>
<p>â€¢ Option-click the address field of a message in the message list to do the equivalent of a search for that address in the currently selected mailbox(es).</p>
<p>â€¢ Allow any sender address to use any SMTP (outgoing) account instead of being unnecessarily associated with a specific IMAP/POP3 (incoming) account.</p>
<p>â€¢ Support IMAP server-side threading capabilities.</p>
<p>Btw, I agree with Tony that IMAP is an icky protocol.  Hard to think of a better reason why so many client implements are lacking (in capability and reliability); servers aren&#8217;t quite as bad.  Too often it&#8217;s not obvious what works and doesn&#8217;t with different client/server combinations.</p>
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		<title>By: karl</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/05/18/appleinsiders-1047-mailapp-tease/#comment-4570</link>
		<dc:creator>karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 13:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. IMAP individual/selective synchronization of folders.
2. Better optimization of the codes that it can handle my 300.000 emails (15 years) of emails.
3. Real search and smartbox withâ€¦ x AND (y OR z)
4. Possibility to do smartboxes on any headers of the mails.
5. Templating system
6. Real mbox support
7. Moving between the panes with the keyboard only (See Netnewswire)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. IMAP individual/selective synchronization of folders.<br />
2. Better optimization of the codes that it can handle my 300.000 emails (15 years) of emails.<br />
3. Real search and smartbox withâ€¦ x AND (y OR z)<br />
4. Possibility to do smartboxes on any headers of the mails.<br />
5. Templating system<br />
6. Real mbox support<br />
7. Moving between the panes with the keyboard only (See Netnewswire)</p>
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		<title>By: RB</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/05/18/appleinsiders-1047-mailapp-tease/#comment-4569</link>
		<dc:creator>RB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 13:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, Mail continues to handle links which are longer than one line improperly which results in "broken" links being sent to others. Apart from the inconvenience to recipients, the whole matter reflects very poorly upon Apple with the recipients...when Apple is touting the superiority of its hardware and software.

This problem has existed since at at least 10.3.9. I am reasonably certain it existed before that but no longer have machines with an earlier OS installed to verify this. It has been reported to Apple and nothing has been done about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, Mail continues to handle links which are longer than one line improperly which results in &#8220;broken&#8221; links being sent to others. Apart from the inconvenience to recipients, the whole matter reflects very poorly upon Apple with the recipients&#8230;when Apple is touting the superiority of its hardware and software.</p>
<p>This problem has existed since at at least 10.3.9. I am reasonably certain it existed before that but no longer have machines with an earlier OS installed to verify this. It has been reported to Apple and nothing has been done about it.</p>
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