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	<title>Comments on: StickyBrain 4.1b3 gets Yojimboed</title>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/05/06/stickybrain-41b3-gets-yojimboed/#comment-3933</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 10:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps it's a WebKit quirk then. 

I wonder if the same characters turn up in Opera, which also uses the WebKit rendering engine (I think)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s a WebKit quirk then. </p>
<p>I wonder if the same characters turn up in Opera, which also uses the WebKit rendering engine (I think)?</p>
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		<title>By: JS</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/05/06/stickybrain-41b3-gets-yojimboed/#comment-3932</link>
		<dc:creator>JS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 10:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see those characters as well sometimes, seems to only crop up in Safari. Camino etc are fine. Changing text encoding doesn't seem to help, just gives different characters...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see those characters as well sometimes, seems to only crop up in Safari. Camino etc are fine. Changing text encoding doesn&#8217;t seem to help, just gives different characters&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/05/06/stickybrain-41b3-gets-yojimboed/#comment-3931</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 10:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we passed the test :) 

I don't know where these odd characters come from, although I note that they are mouch more common in quoted (i.e. cut 'n' pasted) text.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we passed the test :) </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know where these odd characters come from, although I note that they are mouch more common in quoted (i.e. cut &#8216;n&#8217; pasted) text.</p>
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		<title>By: jas</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/05/06/stickybrain-41b3-gets-yojimboed/#comment-3929</link>
		<dc:creator>jas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 08:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does Safari 2.x render characters right from this page?

Let's try Swedish: Ã¥Ã¤Ã¶, Ã…Ã„Ã– (should be aaÃ¶ and AAO vith dots and rings)

Just curious because of this entry: thereï¿½s

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Safari 2.x render characters right from this page?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s try Swedish: Ã¥Ã¤Ã¶, Ã…Ã„Ã– (should be aaÃ¶ and AAO vith dots and rings)</p>
<p>Just curious because of this entry: thereï¿½s</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: TjL</title>
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		<dc:creator>TjL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 00:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yojimbo did, in fact, bear a striking resemblance to StickyBrain when it first came out.  I was surprised that it was not mentioned more often.

I had been demo'ing SB for almost a month when Y came out, and the very first thing I thought was "WOW! That looks a LOT like SB!"

Now there may be differences under the hood, but looking at previous versions of SB and Y would lead an honest person to say that they looked similar.

Palm syncing and the context menu features are the only advantages I see to SB over Y.  I still haven't  bought either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yojimbo did, in fact, bear a striking resemblance to StickyBrain when it first came out.  I was surprised that it was not mentioned more often.</p>
<p>I had been demo&#8217;ing SB for almost a month when Y came out, and the very first thing I thought was &#8220;WOW! That looks a LOT like SB!&#8221;</p>
<p>Now there may be differences under the hood, but looking at previous versions of SB and Y would lead an honest person to say that they looked similar.</p>
<p>Palm syncing and the context menu features are the only advantages I see to SB over Y.  I still haven&#8217;t  bought either.</p>
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		<title>By: JS</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/05/06/stickybrain-41b3-gets-yojimboed/#comment-3909</link>
		<dc:creator>JS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 16:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's what it seems like to me, Tony. They may have taken the time to develop other new features like audio notes, but the DockNote is definitely in response to Yojimbo. It is actually, despite being leveraged on the OS, the one truly original feature of Yojimbo amongst these kinds of apps.

Adding a PDF print service is child's play. I've added a few myself. Again, prompted by Yojimbo's inclusion of this feature.

For the record I wish BB would do a Palm conduit as well. At the moment I use Missing Sync's Memopad app for notes I MUST have on the go. It's a pain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what it seems like to me, Tony. They may have taken the time to develop other new features like audio notes, but the DockNote is definitely in response to Yojimbo. It is actually, despite being leveraged on the OS, the one truly original feature of Yojimbo amongst these kinds of apps.</p>
<p>Adding a PDF print service is child&#8217;s play. I&#8217;ve added a few myself. Again, prompted by Yojimbo&#8217;s inclusion of this feature.</p>
<p>For the record I wish BB would do a Palm conduit as well. At the moment I use Missing Sync&#8217;s Memopad app for notes I MUST have on the go. It&#8217;s a pain.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 16:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JS,

"Directly copying features, be they built in to the OS or not, of a new competing product weeks after they are introduced is cynical."

So, then are you suggesting the StickyBrain programmers burned the midnight oil to  directly copy features that had been released just weeks before, and rushed a new beta to the street with several major changes from their prevoius version, all in a couple weeks time?

I would think it would take them a bit longer, just for testing alone.

Now, don't get me wrong. I looked at Yojimbo and really liked it...but when they responded that they have no intention of ever supporting Palm synching, that was the end of the story for me. Just like Scott (above) who needed flawless .Mac synching, so for him Yojimbo was the final answer.

For the life of me, though, I don't understand BareBones' reluctance to build a Palm conduit. It's not rocket science, and Palm synching fits *very well* with a note-taking type app...they go hand in hand for many people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JS,</p>
<p>&#8220;Directly copying features, be they built in to the OS or not, of a new competing product weeks after they are introduced is cynical.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, then are you suggesting the StickyBrain programmers burned the midnight oil to  directly copy features that had been released just weeks before, and rushed a new beta to the street with several major changes from their prevoius version, all in a couple weeks time?</p>
<p>I would think it would take them a bit longer, just for testing alone.</p>
<p>Now, don&#8217;t get me wrong. I looked at Yojimbo and really liked it&#8230;but when they responded that they have no intention of ever supporting Palm synching, that was the end of the story for me. Just like Scott (above) who needed flawless .Mac synching, so for him Yojimbo was the final answer.</p>
<p>For the life of me, though, I don&#8217;t understand BareBones&#8217; reluctance to build a Palm conduit. It&#8217;s not rocket science, and Palm synching fits *very well* with a note-taking type app&#8230;they go hand in hand for many people.</p>
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		<title>By: Ric</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/05/06/stickybrain-41b3-gets-yojimboed/#comment-3890</link>
		<dc:creator>Ric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 12:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While some may seen this as plagiarism, if so you could certainly argue far more features were stolen from the opposite direction (after all there are many similarities and SB has been out many years). And some features (most obvious being print to PDF) could be claimed to be both stolen from DEVONthink (which if we're picking who "leads the pack" is still far out front... depending on your use). I tried Yojimbo, and as BB fan, wanted to like it (and asked their developers about imminent features added), but it's too far behind DEVONthink and StickyBrain to be of much. Give me at least the basics (sub-folders, copy to iPod, etc.) and it may enter the game. Much of the excitement for Yojimbo from the various Mac sites seem only possible if you ignore the other options. I mean Yojimbos "radical new organization system" isn't. It does encryption well. That's about it so far. Will keep checking back though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While some may seen this as plagiarism, if so you could certainly argue far more features were stolen from the opposite direction (after all there are many similarities and SB has been out many years). And some features (most obvious being print to PDF) could be claimed to be both stolen from DEVONthink (which if we&#8217;re picking who &#8220;leads the pack&#8221; is still far out front&#8230; depending on your use). I tried Yojimbo, and as BB fan, wanted to like it (and asked their developers about imminent features added), but it&#8217;s too far behind DEVONthink and StickyBrain to be of much. Give me at least the basics (sub-folders, copy to iPod, etc.) and it may enter the game. Much of the excitement for Yojimbo from the various Mac sites seem only possible if you ignore the other options. I mean Yojimbos &#8220;radical new organization system&#8221; isn&#8217;t. It does encryption well. That&#8217;s about it so far. Will keep checking back though.</p>
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		<title>By: JS</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/05/06/stickybrain-41b3-gets-yojimboed/#comment-3879</link>
		<dc:creator>JS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 07:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Silver, @Tony,

Nobody, least of all me, is trying to suggest that slide-out drawers, printing to PDF etc are original concepts. They are built on the OS which allows for these conveniences.

Nobody is trying to suggest (I hope) that either Yojimbo or StickyBrain are "original" in concept.

Ergo - no I have not been disingenuous. And yes, I have installed and tried StickyBrain as well. It didn't really do it for me. I also tried Notebook, NoteTaker, Mori, and a few freebies.

Directly copying features, be they built in to the OS or not, of a new competing product weeks after they are introduced is cynical. That's really the end of the story for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Silver, @Tony,</p>
<p>Nobody, least of all me, is trying to suggest that slide-out drawers, printing to PDF etc are original concepts. They are built on the OS which allows for these conveniences.</p>
<p>Nobody is trying to suggest (I hope) that either Yojimbo or StickyBrain are &#8220;original&#8221; in concept.</p>
<p>Ergo - no I have not been disingenuous. And yes, I have installed and tried StickyBrain as well. It didn&#8217;t really do it for me. I also tried Notebook, NoteTaker, Mori, and a few freebies.</p>
<p>Directly copying features, be they built in to the OS or not, of a new competing product weeks after they are introduced is cynical. That&#8217;s really the end of the story for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 06:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just switched from SB/Soho Notes to Yojimbo.  Does Chronos offer more features?  Yup.  Is Chronos a local company for me?  Yup.  Does Notes perform as promised?  No.  .Mac Sync is horribly, horribly broken, and that's why I bought it.

Is Yojimbo as robust?  No.  Does it offer as many bells and whistles?  No.  

Does sync work?  Flawlessly.  

And that, right there, is the name of the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just switched from SB/Soho Notes to Yojimbo.  Does Chronos offer more features?  Yup.  Is Chronos a local company for me?  Yup.  Does Notes perform as promised?  No.  .Mac Sync is horribly, horribly broken, and that&#8217;s why I bought it.</p>
<p>Is Yojimbo as robust?  No.  Does it offer as many bells and whistles?  No.  </p>
<p>Does sync work?  Flawlessly.  </p>
<p>And that, right there, is the name of the game.</p>
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