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		<title>By: Hawk Wings &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Apple Previews New .Mac Interface</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/24/mac-still-value-for-money/comment-page-1/#comment-25671</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawk Wings &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Apple Previews New .Mac Interface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 00:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Will it be enough to silence .Mac&#8217;s many, many, many, many critics or even moderate their complaints? Only time will tell. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Will it be enough to silence .Mac&#8217;s many, many, many, many critics or even moderate their complaints? Only time will tell. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brady J. Frey</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/24/mac-still-value-for-money/comment-page-1/#comment-3057</link>
		<dc:creator>Brady J. Frey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Can you reveal where others can get that $3.33/mo. DreamHost account? I donâ€™t see anything less than $7.95/mo. for managed web hosting with a two-year pre-payment.&quot;

It goes by referrers -- in this case, if you use my referrer on sign up:
dotfive

You&#039;ll get $97 off of one year, $50 off the monthly plan selection and then it&#039;s $60 off the monthly plan for two years, etc. 

Everyone who is a customer can make a referrer code and pass it along. I get 5 bucks or something, you get up to $97 bucks off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Can you reveal where others can get that $3.33/mo. DreamHost account? I donâ€™t see anything less than $7.95/mo. for managed web hosting with a two-year pre-payment.&#8221;</p>
<p>It goes by referrers &#8212; in this case, if you use my referrer on sign up:<br />
dotfive</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll get $97 off of one year, $50 off the monthly plan selection and then it&#8217;s $60 off the monthly plan for two years, etc. </p>
<p>Everyone who is a customer can make a referrer code and pass it along. I get 5 bucks or something, you get up to $97 bucks off.</p>
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		<title>By: sjk</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/24/mac-still-value-for-money/comment-page-1/#comment-3050</link>
		<dc:creator>sjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Cause no one I know at Dreamhost pays 120 bucks a year, I paid 40 and have 20gb of space for a client&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Can you reveal where others can get that $3.33/mo. DreamHost account?  I don&#039;t see anything less than $7.95/mo. for managed web hosting with a two-year pre-payment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Cause no one I know at Dreamhost pays 120 bucks a year, I paid 40 and have 20gb of space for a client</p></blockquote>
<p>Can you reveal where others can get that $3.33/mo. DreamHost account?  I don&#8217;t see anything less than $7.95/mo. for managed web hosting with a two-year pre-payment.</p>
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		<title>By: sjk</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/24/mac-still-value-for-money/comment-page-1/#comment-3048</link>
		<dc:creator>sjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Really, you need to educate yourself before showing your ignorance.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Really, was it necessary to punctuate your post with that offending remark?  Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Really, you need to educate yourself before showing your ignorance.</p></blockquote>
<p>Really, was it necessary to punctuate your post with that offending remark?  Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: sjk</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/24/mac-still-value-for-money/comment-page-1/#comment-3046</link>
		<dc:creator>sjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I believe that Nancy McGough of Infinite Ink (ii.com) now uses Tuffmail. Her website is what really turned me on to IMAP mail servers, not to mention that she is a dedicated Pine user.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Lots of useful info there, but her site is &lt;i&gt;still&lt;/i&gt; begging for the unwieldy-sized monolithic pages to be broken up into smaller ones that are easier to browse/navigate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I believe that Nancy McGough of Infinite Ink (ii.com) now uses Tuffmail. Her website is what really turned me on to IMAP mail servers, not to mention that she is a dedicated Pine user.</p></blockquote>
<p>Lots of useful info there, but her site is <i>still</i> begging for the unwieldy-sized monolithic pages to be broken up into smaller ones that are easier to browse/navigate.</p>
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		<title>By: Eytan</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/24/mac-still-value-for-money/comment-page-1/#comment-3032</link>
		<dc:creator>Eytan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brady,
You write:
.Mac is great for the basic level consumer â€” but most of us outgrow it, and .Mac has nothing for us.

I disagree. The no nonsense syncing, on a system level, between my work machine, two home machines, cell phone, and iPod is something that I cannot do with any sort of ease or simplicity.

Iâ€™ve got to say, if iWeb had produced valid, standard accessible code right out of the box (it doesnâ€™t) with a mind for semantics, I would probably pitch it more. Itâ€™s impressive, but it falls short â€” and without that, I see a huge gap for consumer level benefit regarding .Mac.

I agree iWeb 1.0 is still somewhat of a toy. But it is a 1.0 release.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brady,<br />
You write:<br />
.Mac is great for the basic level consumer â€” but most of us outgrow it, and .Mac has nothing for us.</p>
<p>I disagree. The no nonsense syncing, on a system level, between my work machine, two home machines, cell phone, and iPod is something that I cannot do with any sort of ease or simplicity.</p>
<p>Iâ€™ve got to say, if iWeb had produced valid, standard accessible code right out of the box (it doesnâ€™t) with a mind for semantics, I would probably pitch it more. Itâ€™s impressive, but it falls short â€” and without that, I see a huge gap for consumer level benefit regarding .Mac.</p>
<p>I agree iWeb 1.0 is still somewhat of a toy. But it is a 1.0 release.</p>
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		<title>By: Brady J. Frey</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/24/mac-still-value-for-money/comment-page-1/#comment-2989</link>
		<dc:creator>Brady J. Frey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And yes, buying your own domain name and getting a Dreamhost account for 12 mths costs about $120 a year and you still have to muck around and set it up to match .Macâ€™s services. Why bother?&quot;

Cause no one I know at Dreamhost pays 120 bucks a year, I paid 40 and have 20gb of space for a client -- and muck around yes, but as we noted, it&#039;s for professionals. If you&#039;re on this blog and arguing that much about it, I&#039;m sure you&#039;re more technically enclined than the  most and would prefer to tinker with your own setup. Again, you get your own jabber and can setup ical hosting -- for address book,  you&#039;re out of luck unless you start coding microformats like we&#039;ve just jumped into.

I think we&#039;ve all validated it:) .Mac is great for the basic level consumer -- but most of us outgrow it, and .Mac has nothing for us. I&#039;m surprised, they&#039;ve cornered the price market on iPods, why not make a scale based on services for the .Mac market?

I&#039;ve got to say, if iWeb had produced valid, standard accessible code right out of the box (it doesn&#039;t) with a mind for semantics, I would probably pitch it more. It&#039;s impressive, but it falls short -- and without that, I see a huge gap for consumer level benefit regarding .Mac.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And yes, buying your own domain name and getting a Dreamhost account for 12 mths costs about $120 a year and you still have to muck around and set it up to match .Macâ€™s services. Why bother?&#8221;</p>
<p>Cause no one I know at Dreamhost pays 120 bucks a year, I paid 40 and have 20gb of space for a client &#8212; and muck around yes, but as we noted, it&#8217;s for professionals. If you&#8217;re on this blog and arguing that much about it, I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re more technically enclined than the  most and would prefer to tinker with your own setup. Again, you get your own jabber and can setup ical hosting &#8212; for address book,  you&#8217;re out of luck unless you start coding microformats like we&#8217;ve just jumped into.</p>
<p>I think we&#8217;ve all validated it:) .Mac is great for the basic level consumer &#8212; but most of us outgrow it, and .Mac has nothing for us. I&#8217;m surprised, they&#8217;ve cornered the price market on iPods, why not make a scale based on services for the .Mac market?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got to say, if iWeb had produced valid, standard accessible code right out of the box (it doesn&#8217;t) with a mind for semantics, I would probably pitch it more. It&#8217;s impressive, but it falls short &#8212; and without that, I see a huge gap for consumer level benefit regarding .Mac.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/24/mac-still-value-for-money/comment-page-1/#comment-2973</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think Iâ€™ve just talked myself into .Mac!&quot;

For 24 bucks flicker is unlimited. Someone who takes a lot of pictures couldn&#039;t use .mac because there isn&#039;t enough room.

As far as dreamhost, you can find much better deals than 120 a year, but even at that price, they give you a ton more space than .mac.

Really, you need to educate yourself before showing your ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think Iâ€™ve just talked myself into .Mac!&#8221;</p>
<p>For 24 bucks flicker is unlimited. Someone who takes a lot of pictures couldn&#8217;t use .mac because there isn&#8217;t enough room.</p>
<p>As far as dreamhost, you can find much better deals than 120 a year, but even at that price, they give you a ton more space than .mac.</p>
<p>Really, you need to educate yourself before showing your ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Flowers</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/24/mac-still-value-for-money/comment-page-1/#comment-2961</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Flowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only reason I know about Tuffmail is because of an email discussions forum that I found via Fastmail. They discuss Fastmail, Gmail, and other email related things. Since you are a Fastmail user, you might know about it already but if not, the URI is:

http://www.emailaddresses.com/forum/

I believe that Nancy McGough of Infinite Ink (ii.com) now uses Tuffmail. Her website is what really turned me on to IMAP mail servers, not to mention that she is a dedicated Pine user.

By the way, her website has a large table of email providers and the services that they provide, usually including cost. You can access it at:

http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/imap/isps/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only reason I know about Tuffmail is because of an email discussions forum that I found via Fastmail. They discuss Fastmail, Gmail, and other email related things. Since you are a Fastmail user, you might know about it already but if not, the URI is:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.emailaddresses.com/forum/" rel="nofollow">http://www.emailaddresses.com/forum/</a></p>
<p>I believe that Nancy McGough of Infinite Ink (ii.com) now uses Tuffmail. Her website is what really turned me on to IMAP mail servers, not to mention that she is a dedicated Pine user.</p>
<p>By the way, her website has a large table of email providers and the services that they provide, usually including cost. You can access it at:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/imap/isps/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/imap/isps/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/24/mac-still-value-for-money/comment-page-1/#comment-2936</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh, I see. I&#039;d love to know what Tuffmail is like if you do try out it out. I know nothing about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, I see. I&#8217;d love to know what Tuffmail is like if you do try out it out. I know nothing about it.</p>
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