Comments on: MailTags just keeps getting better and better http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/20/mailtags-just-keeps-getting-better-and-better/ Tips and add-ons to make Apple Mail / Mail.app even better Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:31:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Hawk Wings » Blog Archive » MailTags Public Beta 3.0 released http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/20/mailtags-just-keeps-getting-better-and-better/#comment-29140 Hawk Wings » Blog Archive » MailTags Public Beta 3.0 released Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:07:16 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/20/mailtags-just-keeps-getting-better-and-better/#comment-29140 [...] Scott Morrison has released a third public beta of MailTags 2.0, the next supercharged version of his outstanding plugin for Mail.app (Read more about this plugin which has totally revolutionised the way I use Mail in earlier reviews of MailTags 1.2 and MailTags 1.2.2). [...] [...] Scott Morrison has released a third public beta of MailTags 2.0, the next supercharged version of his outstanding plugin for Mail.app (Read more about this plugin which has totally revolutionised the way I use Mail in earlier reviews of MailTags 1.2 and MailTags 1.2.2). [...]

]]> By: Mustafa Arif http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/20/mailtags-just-keeps-getting-better-and-better/#comment-4250 Mustafa Arif Sun, 14 May 2006 12:18:59 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/20/mailtags-just-keeps-getting-better-and-better/#comment-4250 Even if use of IMAP keywords proves too difficult it would still be nice to for the Mail Tags reference to be stored in the header in a format that is text parsable (e.g. X-MailTags: foo,bar). I can configure SquirrelMail (my webmail client) to search on the basis of email headers - and other clients can too. Not being able to search messages by tags through a web interface is one of those things holding me back from switching to using tags - and resulting in me using naff folders instead. Even if use of IMAP keywords proves too difficult it would still be nice to for the Mail Tags reference to be stored in the header in a format that is text parsable (e.g. X-MailTags: foo,bar).

I can configure SquirrelMail (my webmail client) to search on the basis of email headers - and other clients can too.

Not being able to search messages by tags through a web interface is one of those things holding me back from switching to using tags - and resulting in me using naff folders instead.

]]> By: sjk http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/20/mailtags-just-keeps-getting-better-and-better/#comment-2707 sjk Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:00:26 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/20/mailtags-just-keeps-getting-better-and-better/#comment-2707 <blockquote>for all of the problems folks have with Apple Mail, you still can’t beat their message threading capability.</blockquote> Glad you like it, though other clients do a better job of threading (some using server-side IMAP capabilities, which Mail ignores). If you're interested in more details, there's been some fairly recent discussion of threading on a few weblogs, maybe here and on <a href="http://www.betalogue.com/" rel="nofollow">Betalogue</a>. Normally I'd find and post some links in the spirit of helpfulness but today's backlog insists I be a bit more selfish with my time. :)

for all of the problems folks have with Apple Mail, you still can’t beat their message threading capability.

Glad you like it, though other clients do a better job of threading (some using server-side IMAP capabilities, which Mail ignores). If you’re interested in more details, there’s been some fairly recent discussion of threading on a few weblogs, maybe here and on Betalogue. Normally I’d find and post some links in the spirit of helpfulness but today’s backlog insists I be a bit more selfish with my time. :)

]]> By: Whitney McBee http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/20/mailtags-just-keeps-getting-better-and-better/#comment-2675 Whitney McBee Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:12:07 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/20/mailtags-just-keeps-getting-better-and-better/#comment-2675 Great stuff Scott, I think I'll have to send another donation. I wish all developers were as dedicated as you. Great stuff Scott, I think I’ll have to send another donation. I wish all developers were as dedicated as you.

]]> By: Anthony Baker http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/20/mailtags-just-keeps-getting-better-and-better/#comment-2642 Anthony Baker Thu, 20 Apr 2006 05:31:31 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/20/mailtags-just-keeps-getting-better-and-better/#comment-2642 Oh, and that comment is coming from someone who loves Outlook on the PC (though I'm not the biggest Entourage fan). Oh, and that comment is coming from someone who loves Outlook on the PC (though I’m not the biggest Entourage fan).

]]> By: Anthony Baker http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/20/mailtags-just-keeps-getting-better-and-better/#comment-2640 Anthony Baker Thu, 20 Apr 2006 05:30:59 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/20/mailtags-just-keeps-getting-better-and-better/#comment-2640 Ah, thanks for the clarification, folks. Much appreciated! And you know, for all of the problems folks have with Apple Mail, you still can't beat their message threading capability. Hands down, this is probably the biggest reason I don't bolt for something else. Insofar as I'm concerned, no one has done it better than they have. Ah, thanks for the clarification, folks. Much appreciated!

And you know, for all of the problems folks have with Apple Mail, you still can’t beat their message threading capability. Hands down, this is probably the biggest reason I don’t bolt for something else. Insofar as I’m concerned, no one has done it better than they have.

]]> By: Tim http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/20/mailtags-just-keeps-getting-better-and-better/#comment-2636 Tim Thu, 20 Apr 2006 05:02:46 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/20/mailtags-just-keeps-getting-better-and-better/#comment-2636 Anthony wrote: <blockquote>Other than this, I love this application. Apple should buy him out with a very large check… Brilliant stuff.</blockquote>hehehe.... With the new features coming up, I don't think Apple can write a cheque that's big enough ;-) Anthony wrote:

Other than this, I love this application. Apple should buy him out with a very large check… Brilliant stuff.

hehehe…. With the new features coming up, I don’t think Apple can write a cheque that’s big enough ;-)

]]> By: Scott Morrison http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/20/mailtags-just-keeps-getting-better-and-better/#comment-2631 Scott Morrison Thu, 20 Apr 2006 04:12:58 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/20/mailtags-just-keeps-getting-better-and-better/#comment-2631 Hi Anthony These are teasers for the next version. They aren't implemented in version 1.2.1 (the current release) Hi Anthony

These are teasers for the next version. They aren’t implemented in version 1.2.1 (the current release)

]]> By: Anthony Baker http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/20/mailtags-just-keeps-getting-better-and-better/#comment-2627 Anthony Baker Thu, 20 Apr 2006 04:00:20 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/20/mailtags-just-keeps-getting-better-and-better/#comment-2627 The list view seems wonderful as all hell, but it's not popping up on my end when I invoke the command for it. Anyone else having that issue? Other than this, I love this application. Apple should buy him out with a very large check... Brilliant stuff. The list view seems wonderful as all hell, but it’s not popping up on my end when I invoke the command for it. Anyone else having that issue?

Other than this, I love this application. Apple should buy him out with a very large check… Brilliant stuff.

]]> By: Ted Pavlic http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/20/mailtags-just-keeps-getting-better-and-better/#comment-2593 Ted Pavlic Wed, 19 Apr 2006 21:52:24 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/04/20/mailtags-just-keeps-getting-better-and-better/#comment-2593 Personally, I would be okay with a user preference that associates "a nice long pretty MailTags tag" with a "ShortAndUglyIMAPKeyword". It would be okay with me if those associations were stored locally. (though remotely storing them would just be super cool; it's hardly necessary though) I'm not sure if that would mean setting up an entire table in preferences that makes this mapping... Maybe that's how it would work. A user preference "Use IMAP Keyword Associations" that pops up a window that lists all MailTag-to-IMAP mappings. You could then "Add New IMAP Keyword" and add a new mapping. Then every time you tag something with a project name, it not only gets a MailTag, but it also gets an IMAP tag. (and similarly, if a message is re-downloaded (does Apple Mail do that?) and it has a new tag applied, its corresponding MailTag would get updated) Maybe that's just too much of a mess. It's really too bad that there's not a general "metadata" already built into IMAP. Maybe in the next version of IMAP? :) Personally, I would be okay with a user preference that associates “a nice long pretty MailTags tag” with a “ShortAndUglyIMAPKeyword”. It would be okay with me if those associations were stored locally. (though remotely storing them would just be super cool; it’s hardly necessary though) I’m not sure if that would mean setting up an entire table in preferences that makes this mapping…

Maybe that’s how it would work. A user preference “Use IMAP Keyword Associations” that pops up a window that lists all MailTag-to-IMAP mappings. You could then “Add New IMAP Keyword” and add a new mapping.

Then every time you tag something with a project name, it not only gets a MailTag, but it also gets an IMAP tag. (and similarly, if a message is re-downloaded (does Apple Mail do that?) and it has a new tag applied, its corresponding MailTag would get updated)

Maybe that’s just too much of a mess.

It’s really too bad that there’s not a general “metadata” already built into IMAP. Maybe in the next version of IMAP? :)

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