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	<title>Comments on: Zimbra iSync beta released</title>
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		<title>By: Zimbra iSync beta released &#187; Chip.Cuccio.US</title>
		<link>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/03/07/zimbra-isync-beta-released/comment-page-1/#comment-1714</link>
		<dc:creator>Zimbra iSync beta released &#187; Chip.Cuccio.US</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 13:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This will allow Mac users to sync their calendar and contact data with Zimbra&#8217;s web-based interface. It seems to offer a solution for those who fear too great a gulf in Web 2.0 services between server-side data-storage and users&#8217; computers.  Source: &#8220;Zimbra iSync beta released&#8221; &#8212; Hawk Wings [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This will allow Mac users to sync their calendar and contact data with Zimbra&#8217;s web-based interface. It seems to offer a solution for those who fear too great a gulf in Web 2.0 services between server-side data-storage and users&#8217; computers.  Source: &#8220;Zimbra iSync beta released&#8221; &#8212; Hawk Wings [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brady J. Frey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brady J. Frey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 00:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of it looks CSS enabled -- in theory, any CSS user experienced enough can style it as needed -- but some of those images are in the html, so that would be a whole new angle (and I&#039;m sure they didn&#039;t use alpha transparent png&#039;s because Internet Explorer doesn&#039;t support that, so each probably has a sucky background -- you&#039;d have to change those too).

It&#039;s template-able, but not like Wodpress or roundcube -- whose engine uses very customizable html and css, so we can control it much more closely. Especially the HTML, there&#039;s no reason for some of their mess.

Regardless, part of it is open source, so I could take a week to destroy it and re-write it... but why, when it&#039;s such a load on my computer, I&#039;ll stick with my roundcube and php calendar -- but it is nice it&#039;s tied together... just not touching my server with that code:) I refuse!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of it looks CSS enabled &#8212; in theory, any CSS user experienced enough can style it as needed &#8212; but some of those images are in the html, so that would be a whole new angle (and I&#8217;m sure they didn&#8217;t use alpha transparent png&#8217;s because Internet Explorer doesn&#8217;t support that, so each probably has a sucky background &#8212; you&#8217;d have to change those too).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s template-able, but not like Wodpress or roundcube &#8212; whose engine uses very customizable html and css, so we can control it much more closely. Especially the HTML, there&#8217;s no reason for some of their mess.</p>
<p>Regardless, part of it is open source, so I could take a week to destroy it and re-write it&#8230; but why, when it&#8217;s such a load on my computer, I&#8217;ll stick with my roundcube and php calendar &#8212; but it is nice it&#8217;s tied together&#8230; just not touching my server with that code:) I refuse!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 00:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehehe ;-) 

Yes, it&#039;s a bit like that, isn&#039;t it? I had to switch to Firefox to try the demo. 

I&#039;m obviously not as visually astute as you are. It ddin&#039;t seem too horrible on the eyes to me. 

I wonder to what extent it is skinnable?  I know you can customise the logo and so forth in the Network Edition, but about the rest of the CSS?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehehe ;-) </p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s a bit like that, isn&#8217;t it? I had to switch to Firefox to try the demo. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m obviously not as visually astute as you are. It ddin&#8217;t seem too horrible on the eyes to me. </p>
<p>I wonder to what extent it is skinnable?  I know you can customise the logo and so forth in the Network Edition, but about the rest of the CSS?</p>
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		<title>By: Brady J. Frey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brady J. Frey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2006 19:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in a love hate relationship with Zimbra -- it has much power, but it is highly unattractive -- as a designer, I&#039;m appalled by some of it&#039;s UI decisions. Not to mention it&#039;s lack of quality Safari output (go ahead and test the demo); though that&#039;s partially safari&#039;s lack of javascript in some areas, there are other routes they could have taken.

Now, I&#039;ll avoid the fact that it loads as long as other applications to get going (again, the javascript part), but the html and CSS were NOT coded by professional talent. I see bugs in that code I wouldn&#039;t have made four years ago -- maybe we have some programmers that think html/css is a joke, but I tend to think if they can&#039;t do the simple stuff, why should i trust the advanced stuff on my server?

I like the power, but looking under the hood, it&#039;s not going on my xserve... and for the love of god, brushed metal with gray canvas?! NOoooo....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in a love hate relationship with Zimbra &#8212; it has much power, but it is highly unattractive &#8212; as a designer, I&#8217;m appalled by some of it&#8217;s UI decisions. Not to mention it&#8217;s lack of quality Safari output (go ahead and test the demo); though that&#8217;s partially safari&#8217;s lack of javascript in some areas, there are other routes they could have taken.</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;ll avoid the fact that it loads as long as other applications to get going (again, the javascript part), but the html and CSS were NOT coded by professional talent. I see bugs in that code I wouldn&#8217;t have made four years ago &#8212; maybe we have some programmers that think html/css is a joke, but I tend to think if they can&#8217;t do the simple stuff, why should i trust the advanced stuff on my server?</p>
<p>I like the power, but looking under the hood, it&#8217;s not going on my xserve&#8230; and for the love of god, brushed metal with gray canvas?! NOoooo&#8230;.</p>
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