Comments on: Oh, the pain, the pain! IMAP in Mail.app http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/01/12/oh-the-pain-the-pain-imap-in-mailapp-2/ Tips and add-ons to make Apple Mail / Mail.app even better Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:23:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Ted Pavlic http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/01/12/oh-the-pain-the-pain-imap-in-mailapp-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1117 Ted Pavlic Mon, 30 Jan 2006 06:22:40 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/01/12/oh-the-pain-the-pain-imap-in-mailapp-2/#comment-1117 Nearly every Thunderbird feature request is like that. I'm not convinced the whole "Bugzilla" concept even works. I think David Allen needs to get involved. Well, technically the QuickSilver thing works just because you can assign Thunderbird as the default handler ("protocol helper") for "mailto:". QuickSilver sends a "mailto:blah@blah.com" to the operating system, the operating system looks up "mailto:" and calls up Thunderbird. So it's really "Default e-mail client support." ( side note: A long time ago I started using a neat Preference Pane calld "More Internet" -- you can add, remove, and change any protocol and its helper. "smb" and "cifs" were not setup on my OS X system by default, so I added them and associated them with Finder. Now if I open "smb://windowsfileserver/share" in any application, Finder opens up that share automagically. Anyway, this gives you a way to shuffle all your default handlers around ) So I guess I would call it a sort of "Synergy of the Trinity: QuickSilver, Finder, and Thunderbird"... or something... Nearly every Thunderbird feature request is like that. I’m not convinced the whole “Bugzilla” concept even works. I think David Allen needs to get involved.

Well, technically the QuickSilver thing works just because you can assign Thunderbird as the default handler (“protocol helper”) for “mailto:”. QuickSilver sends a “mailto:blah@blah.com” to the operating system, the operating system looks up “mailto:” and calls up Thunderbird. So it’s really “Default e-mail client support.”

( side note: A long time ago I started using a neat Preference Pane calld “More Internet” — you can add, remove, and change any protocol and its helper. “smb” and “cifs” were not setup on my OS X system by default, so I added them and associated them with Finder. Now if I open “smb://windowsfileserver/share” in any application, Finder opens up that share automagically. Anyway, this gives you a way to shuffle all your default handlers around )

So I guess I would call it a sort of “Synergy of the Trinity: QuickSilver, Finder, and Thunderbird”… or something…

]]> By: Tim http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/01/12/oh-the-pain-the-pain-imap-in-mailapp-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1115 Tim Mon, 30 Jan 2006 06:14:03 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/01/12/oh-the-pain-the-pain-imap-in-mailapp-2/#comment-1115 In fact the bugzilla feature request for Address Book intergration - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=203927- has been open for two and a half years without much sign of forward movement. Neat tip though. Might blog it up as an entry of its own, if you don't mind. Would you call that "Thunderbird support" or is it really "Default email client support" (contingently TB in this case)? In fact the bugzilla feature request for Address Book intergration – https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=203927- has been open for two and a half years without much sign of forward movement.

Neat tip though. Might blog it up as an entry of its own, if you don’t mind.

Would you call that “Thunderbird support” or is it really “Default email client support” (contingently TB in this case)?

]]> By: Ted Pavlic http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/01/12/oh-the-pain-the-pain-imap-in-mailapp-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1113 Ted Pavlic Mon, 30 Jan 2006 05:51:07 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/01/12/oh-the-pain-the-pain-imap-in-mailapp-2/#comment-1113 I agree that Thunderbird could do LDAP a little better. I also agree that Apple Mail is just too slow to be a good IMAP client. Speaking of address books and TBird, I know that a lot of people wish Thunderbird could use the wonderful Apple Address Book. If it did, they would be willing to switch back to Thunderbird. Well, Thunderbird doesn't support AAB yet, but Quicksilver does, and Quicksilver has (*SOME*) Thunderbird support. Set Thunderbird as your default e-mail app, hit Cntrl+Space, type in a name from your address book, tab over, type "Compose," and Thunderbird will pop up in a compose window with that e-mail address. The comma trick works too. Cntrl+Space, name, comma, name, comma, name, comma, ..., tab, compose, and Thunderbird will pop up an e-mail addressed to each of those address book entries. I agree that Thunderbird could do LDAP a little better. I also agree that Apple Mail is just too slow to be a good IMAP client.

Speaking of address books and TBird, I know that a lot of people wish Thunderbird could use the wonderful Apple Address Book. If it did, they would be willing to switch back to Thunderbird.

Well, Thunderbird doesn’t support AAB yet, but Quicksilver does, and Quicksilver has (*SOME*) Thunderbird support. Set Thunderbird as your default e-mail app, hit Cntrl+Space, type in a name from your address book, tab over, type “Compose,” and Thunderbird will pop up in a compose window with that e-mail address.

The comma trick works too. Cntrl+Space, name, comma, name, comma, name, comma, …, tab, compose, and Thunderbird will pop up an e-mail addressed to each of those address book entries.

]]> By: Drewbob http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/01/12/oh-the-pain-the-pain-imap-in-mailapp-2/comment-page-1/#comment-890 Drewbob Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:55:33 +0000 http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/01/12/oh-the-pain-the-pain-imap-in-mailapp-2/#comment-890 If Thunderbird handled a few things in a more elegant fashion (mainly ldap lookups) that matched Mail.app, I'd probably switch. But for now the lack of polish keeps me heading back to Mail.app (although it's IMAP handling is abysmal it's nowhere near as bad as Eudora, Entourage or Outlook 2003 on Windows). If Thunderbird handled a few things in a more elegant fashion (mainly ldap lookups) that matched Mail.app, I’d probably switch. But for now the lack of polish keeps me heading back to Mail.app (although it’s IMAP handling is abysmal it’s nowhere near as bad as Eudora, Entourage or Outlook 2003 on Windows).

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